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LandingGearPins 05-24-2024 12:03 PM

Who’s going to EWR
 
Who plans to bid EWR

SSlow 05-24-2024 12:18 PM

If they don't play the "Newark state of mind" parody at the ribbon cutting ceremony, I'm quitting.

JaJaDingDong 05-24-2024 02:29 PM

probably near 100% of acy and bringing our high relative seniority with us.

demonrat 05-24-2024 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by SSlow (Post 3805336)
If they don't play the "Newark state of mind" parody at the ribbon cutting ceremony, I'm quitting.

This is why I love Spirit.

LandingGearPins 05-24-2024 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by JaJaDingDong (Post 3805371)
probably near 100% of acy and bringing our high relative seniority with us.

all 40 of you still 160 pilots to go

SlimBob 05-25-2024 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by LandingGearPins (Post 3805334)
Who plans to bid EWR

There are 156 pilots who live within 200 miles of EWR. Looks like a select few will be displaced to EWR against their will.

DrSteveBrule 05-25-2024 07:10 AM

The acy ca/fo split is 50 ca 43 fo plus or minus a couple. Roughly 107 displacements without factoring voluntary ewr bidders outside of acy.

Aeroengie 05-25-2024 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by SlimBob (Post 3805490)
There are 156 pilots who live within 200 miles of EWR. Looks like a select few will be displaced to EWR against their will.

how’d you pull that stat? Also, would kill for EWR (FLL here)

SlimBob 05-25-2024 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by Aeroengie (Post 3805574)
how’d you pull that stat? Also, would kill for EWR (FLL here)

Spa.alpa.org - Pilot dashboard - Pilot Commute then add up all the bases.

Chimpy 05-26-2024 03:08 AM


Originally Posted by LandingGearPins (Post 3805334)
Who plans to bid EWR

I’m like 15% company wide but was 50% in ACY. I know a few super senior guys who live in NY/CT who will bid EWR who commuted to ORD/Dtw. Can’t wait to be even more junior 😂

Noisecanceller 05-26-2024 04:55 AM


Originally Posted by Chimpy (Post 3805697)
I’m like 15% company wide but was 50% in ACY. I know a few super senior guys who live in NY/CT who will bid EWR who commuted to ORD/Dtw. Can’t wait to be even more junior 😂

Well we all will be as the company shrinks from the bottom

SSlow 05-28-2024 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by SlimBob (Post 3805490)
There are 156 pilots who live within 200 miles of EWR. Looks like a select few will be displaced to EWR against their will.

We've also got quite a few pilots who are from the NE and didn't want to commute so they moved to a base, especially in FL. I've flown with several who were planning on eventually going back to that area had the Jetblue merger been approved.

SlimBob 05-29-2024 04:18 AM


Originally Posted by SSlow (Post 3806284)
We've also got quite a few pilots who are from the NE and didn't want to commute so they moved to a base, especially in FL. I've flown with several who were planning on eventually going back to that area had the Jetblue merger been approved.

I don't think anyone is moving their family until this company starts operating with a profit again.

Jimdunbar 05-29-2024 12:47 PM

So this bid on the 31st is EWR only? Not the furlough?

BusBoi 05-29-2024 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by Jimdunbar (Post 3806870)
So this bid on the 31st is EWR only? Not the furlough?

It's kinda both. After the bid they will know which specific pilots will be furloughed. This can then change if the union can get us furlough mitigation. The bid results can be cancelled at any time up to the effective date (sept 1).

DrSteveBrule 05-29-2024 06:03 PM

It's both. Furlough can actually be bid voluntarily.

Noisecanceller 05-29-2024 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by SlimBob (Post 3806629)
I don't think anyone is moving their family until this company starts operating with a profit again.

Why not?

Over half of our bases including EWR are hubs and domiciles for legacies. Why not move? If you want to leave you could move or if you have a class date already you could use the displacement to pay for your move. Even if you want to stay you could move because you like a certain area better than your current domicile also that it’s a hedge in case spirit goes tits up and you now live a domicile for your preferred legacy.

SlimBob 05-30-2024 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3806989)
Why not?

Over half of our bases including EWR are hubs and domiciles for legacies. Why not move? If you want to leave you could move or if you have a class date already you could use the displacement to pay for your move. Even if you want to stay you could move because you like a certain area better than your current domicile also that it’s a hedge in case spirit goes tits up and you now live a domicile for your preferred legacy.

My comment refered to moving to EWR. Sure people might move to a hub city, but north Jersey? Gross.

DrSteveBrule 05-30-2024 12:47 PM

What's wrong with Northeastern PA/western NJ or Central Jersey along the shore? Nothing. Beautiful areas. Ya dont have to live in the central ward to work in EWR.

SlimBob 05-30-2024 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by DrSteveBrule (Post 3807186)
What's wrong with Northeastern PA/western NJ or Central Jersey along the shore? Nothing. Beautiful areas. Ya dont have to live in the central ward to work in EWR.

Also another valid point. However the comment made was about someone moving to EWR as a result of this bid. I don't think it will happen. I'm not knocking anyone who lives here, anyone who wants to move to a hub city, just simply stating my opinion.

BusBoi 05-30-2024 06:14 PM

Yea, Jersey is probably the most underrated state. It's a great place. There's only a couple other places in the US I'd want to live.

FLYBOYMATTHEW 05-30-2024 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by BusBoi (Post 3807252)
Yea, Jersey is probably the most underrated state. It's a great place. There's only a couple other places in the US I'd want to live.

Some of the highest taxes in the nation, overpriced real estate, over-crowded, poor infrastructure, filthy beaches, terrible accents from the few that speak English. EWR is a concrete, industrial, wasteland hell. It looks like $h!+, smells like $h!+, and is basically just $h!+. But other than that...it's great!

FlyGuy2002 05-30-2024 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW (Post 3807268)
Some of the highest taxes in the nation, overpriced real estate, over-crowded, poor infrastructure, filthy beaches, terrible accents from the few that speak English. EWR is a concrete, industrial, wasteland hell. It looks like $h!+, smells like $h!+, and is basically just $h!+. But other than that...it's great!

doesn’t high prices and crowded mean people wanna live there? Minot North Dakota has neither . Nor ‘filthy beaches’ they even have non crazy accents. EWR is not Jersey. Same as Miami is not Florida. Thank god. Take your ivory tower and move west.. the bison state welcomes you.

SSlow 05-31-2024 03:18 AM


Originally Posted by SlimBob (Post 3807215)
Also another valid point. However the comment made was about someone moving to EWR as a result of this bid. I don't think it will happen. I'm not knocking anyone who lives here, anyone who wants to move to a hub city, just simply stating my opinion.

I've flown with a few FOs in FLL who are younger and either single or partnered without kids, and "home" for them is somewhere up in the NE.

Florida is nothing more than a placeholder for a lot of them before they get older and decide to start a family.

Judge Smails 05-31-2024 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW (Post 3807268)
Some of the highest taxes in the nation, overpriced real estate, over-crowded, poor infrastructure, filthy beaches, terrible accents from the few that speak English. EWR is a concrete, industrial, wasteland hell. It looks like $h!+, smells like $h!+, and is basically just $h!+. But other than that...it's great!

The first sentence of your post sounds like a perfect description of South Florida, just replace taxes with homeowners insurance.

Noisecanceller 05-31-2024 07:18 PM

Look around next time you are at 5 or 6k before they put you on the base for 22L. Northern NJ is absolutely beautiful outside of EWR

Halon1211 05-31-2024 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3807480)
Look around next time you are at 5 or 6k before they put you on the base for 22L. Northern NJ is absolutely beautiful outside of EWR

may the heavens have such envy of the state of New Jersey that glimmers in the rays shinning down from the oh mighty sun!

And the Angels chanted— LONG LIVE ‘JERSEY!

Flika 05-31-2024 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3807480)
Look around next time you are at 5 or 6k before they put you on the base for 22L. Northern NJ is absolutely beautiful outside of EWR

That's why Newark is called the mile high city. You have to be a mile high to find it attractive.

SpeedBrakes 06-01-2024 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3807486)
may the heavens have such envy of the state of New Jersey that glimmers in the rays shinning down from the oh mighty sun!

And the Angels chanted— LONG LIVE ‘JERSEY!

guess that united interview didn't work out for you as you still post on here? Laf

Halon1211 06-01-2024 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by SpeedBrakes (Post 3807652)
guess that united interview didn't work out for you as you still post on here? Laf

guess someone is being displaced to EWR?


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