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ShyGuy 07-29-2025 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by MANTOGASRS (Post 3933010)
Taking on someone else’s kids in any situation is stupid? I think I’ve finally the biggest POS ever 😂. So much for all those foster/adopted kids of the world


I don’t l think that’s what he meant. He’s divorced, and this is the new relationship, a girlfriend.

Fact is he is not married to her. Love is easy when it’s convenient. Sacrifice is a true measure. If this story is real, it’s time to sit down with that GF and re-work out expenses.

BrazilBusDriver 07-29-2025 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by LNAVVNAVPATH (Post 3932155)
I’m sure my DUI 7 years ago is a huge road block. I just pray to god I can either land at a regional as a DEC or at an ACMI carrier to tide me over to the 10 year mark when I no longer need to report it.

This may have been addressed somewhere in the last 10 or so pages of replies, but in case it hasn't, and for your sake, I strongly encourage you to seek some form of professional advice. I believe the high likelihood of being "criminally inadmissible" to Canada would hold you back from regional employment in the current hiring environment, much less ACMI, other major, or legacy.

I believe this is a far bigger roadblock than you understand based upon your statements in the first 8 or so pages I read. If this has otherwise been addressed, please disregard. Just trying to help a potential downgrade and/or furlough facing brother or sister out. (Full disclosure: That's not me currently, but I've been there and done that, and getting that t-shirt suuuuuucks).

Your DUI makes you presumptively inadmissible to Canada for at least 10 years. Luckily, it sounds like you received it before December 2018. Apparently, it's been upgraded to a felony equivalent conviction in Canada as of then, but offenses prior to that date are treated as lesser (equivalent to what they were then in Canada) for immigration purposes. You have two reasonable options to regain entry. Criminal rehabilitation 5 years post conviction and sentencing (including probation), and deemed rehabilitation after 10 years. But you will have to apply for either. Criminal rehabilitation requires submitting a packet to an immigration office, and you'd probably want the help of a lawyer. Deemed is relatively painless; you can do it at any port of entry, but it has to be applied for in person. I went with a friend who needed to do so for a conviction nearly 20 years ago, and it took all of 20 minutes. Before this, he'd missed out on a couple of regional airline job offers, including one where he'd previously worked in another department at the airline.

As far as I understand it, "deemed rehabilitation" is no longer an option for offenses committed after December 18, 2018, but honestly, I think you ought to go the "criminal rehabilitation" route, given that you don't believe you necessarily have 3 more years of secure employment.

I was convicted of driving while impaired by alcohol or drugs. Can I enter Canada?

Overcome criminal convictions - Canada.ca

Canada DUI Entry: Can I visit Canada with a DUI? | Canadavisa.com

HwkrPlt 07-29-2025 03:30 PM

So we have two accounts, both with similar usernames (MANTOGASRS and LNAVVNAVPATH) doing the dual trolling thing. bet you a dollar they are the same IP address.

8JRMfortheyear 07-29-2025 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by HwkrPlt (Post 3933100)
So we have two accounts, both with similar usernames (MANTOGASRS and LNAVVNAVPATH) doing the dual trolling thing. bet you a dollar they are the same IP address.


LOL if that’s the case…. He/she got me!! 😂

CatPilot1 07-29-2025 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by 8JRMfortheyear (Post 3933130)
LOL if that’s the case…. He/she got me!! 😂

you meant Halon 121 got you

8JRMfortheyear 07-29-2025 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by catpilot1 (Post 3933138)
you meant halon 121 got you

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅

Born2FlyAv8R 07-29-2025 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by 8JRMfortheyear (Post 3933130)
LOL if that’s the case…. He/she got me!! 😂

yupppp! They’re the same and bet for sure they’re Halon! Notice how the original poster started another thread on the same day and within minutes of starting this thread, the other thread was asking if Spirit was hiring because of an army buddy of his, then this thread saying that he’s a Houston captain about to be downgraded because of 140 downgrades? At minimum, the two usernames are the same, and they’re trolling, at most, the two user names are the same, they are trolling, and it’s Halon 😂😂😂😂

CatPilot1 07-29-2025 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by Born2FlyAv8R (Post 3933142)
yupppp! They’re the same and bet for sure they’re Halon! Notice how the original poster started another thread on the same day and within minutes of starting this thread, the other thread was asking if Spirit was hiring because of an army buddy of his, then this thread saying that he’s a Houston captain about to be downgraded because of 140 downgrades? At minimum, the two usernames are the same, and they’re trolling, at most, the two user names are the same, they are trolling, and it’s Halon 😂😂😂😂

Halon was gearedup and 3inthegreen. He loves using ChatGPT. I do believe there was some truth to his VNAV character. Especially the 30k a month and exwife. He’s a funny guy for sure.

LNAVVNAVPATH 07-30-2025 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 3933045)
I don’t l think that’s what he meant. He’s divorced, and this is the new relationship, a girlfriend.

Fact is he is not married to her. Love is easy when it’s convenient. Sacrifice is a true measure. If this story is real, it’s time to sit down with that GF and re-work out expenses.

this is correct. Yeah we have no debt other than the house. Went through Dave Ramsey a few years back.

LNAVVNAVPATH 07-30-2025 05:15 AM


Originally Posted by HwkrPlt (Post 3933100)
So we have two accounts, both with similar usernames (MANTOGASRS and LNAVVNAVPATH) doing the dual trolling thing. bet you a dollar they are the same IP address.

Mantogasrs is my new hire class mate. Halon 121 was Clarence Thomas and Billy Tate. Halon use to be the 77 CA Rep here.


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