Spirit QOL?
12-08-2019, 06:21 AM
#151
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2019
Posts: 110
Originally Posted by DNicolas
This is an old thread......can anyone share what kind of hotels Spirit crews stay at these days? Brand......distance from airports?
Are FOs able to routinely fly more than the min hours?
Thanks,
D~
Are FOs able to routinely fly more than the min hours?
Thanks,
D~
Hotels are divided into this criteria:
Long stay - 18hr+ layover. These hotels are located downtown or in an equivalent busy area. Hotel chains like Westin, Marriot, Hilton, Embassy Suits, Springhill Suits, Sonesta, etc. Some are really nice, some aren’t that great. Everybody has a different opinion and a different complaint. I truly enjoy most of our long layovers. Plenty to do if you’re not too lazy. Also, transportation is contracted separately and most of the time they’re ready waiting for you.
Short stay - <18hr layover. These are airport hotels. My pet peeve are the shuttles. Nothing like flying a red eye and having to freeze your ass for 30’ waiting for the shuttle. Otherwise the hotels are pretty decent with few exceptions. They’re Marriotts, Hilton Garden Inn, Double Tree, etc.
As far as your second question, while on reserve don’t bank on braking guarantee. You could put yourself on the X/Y lists on days off but it’s more luck than anything else. Again don’t budget on it.
Once you’re a line holder, you can virtually fly as much as you want (FAR117) or as little as you want. Plenty of flexibility, more than almost anywhere else in this industry.
12-08-2019, 10:29 AM
#152
Line Holder
Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 33
Originally Posted by Balker
I’m assuming this is your first 121 job so I’ll take the time to explain.
Hotels are divided into this criteria:
Long stay - 18hr+ layover. These hotels are located downtown or in an equivalent busy area. Hotel chains like Westin, Marriot, Hilton, Embassy Suits, Springhill Suits, Sonesta, etc. Some are really nice, some aren’t that great. Everybody has a different opinion and a different complaint. I truly enjoy most of our long layovers. Plenty to do if you’re not too lazy. Also, transportation is contracted separately and most of the time they’re ready waiting for you.
Short stay - <18hr layover. These are airport hotels. My pet peeve are the shuttles. Nothing like flying a red eye and having to freeze your ass for 30’ waiting for the shuttle. Otherwise the hotels are pretty decent with few exceptions. They’re Marriotts, Hilton Garden Inn, Double Tree, etc.
As far as your second question, while on reserve don’t bank on braking guarantee. You could put yourself on the X/Y lists on days off but it’s more luck than anything else. Again don’t budget on it.
Once you’re a line holder, you can virtually fly as much as you want (FAR117) or as little as you want. Plenty of flexibility, more than almost anywhere else in this industry.
Hotels are divided into this criteria:
Long stay - 18hr+ layover. These hotels are located downtown or in an equivalent busy area. Hotel chains like Westin, Marriot, Hilton, Embassy Suits, Springhill Suits, Sonesta, etc. Some are really nice, some aren’t that great. Everybody has a different opinion and a different complaint. I truly enjoy most of our long layovers. Plenty to do if you’re not too lazy. Also, transportation is contracted separately and most of the time they’re ready waiting for you.
Short stay - <18hr layover. These are airport hotels. My pet peeve are the shuttles. Nothing like flying a red eye and having to freeze your ass for 30’ waiting for the shuttle. Otherwise the hotels are pretty decent with few exceptions. They’re Marriotts, Hilton Garden Inn, Double Tree, etc.
As far as your second question, while on reserve don’t bank on braking guarantee. You could put yourself on the X/Y lists on days off but it’s more luck than anything else. Again don’t budget on it.
Once you’re a line holder, you can virtually fly as much as you want (FAR117) or as little as you want. Plenty of flexibility, more than almost anywhere else in this industry.
D~
12-08-2019, 02:24 PM
#153
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Posts: 489
Originally Posted by DNicolas
Ok, now that was useful information, exactly what I was looking for. Glad there are a couple adults here.
D~
D~
Per diem is at the union negotiated rate not the federal GSA rate that you’re used to.
Congress took away our ability to file to get reimbursement between the federal GSA rate and the airline rate a few years ago.
If the hotel shuttle doesn’t arrive within 15 minutes you can take a taxi and submit an expense report for reimbursement. (May or may not be approved - I’m 100% approval on taxi reimbursements so far). If the hotel doesn’t provide the negotiated grab and go. You can also submit for reimbursement from the company.
Crew scheduling is your single point of contact for hotel/travel arrangements. (Good and bad) No more going to the TMO/transportation office to obtain travel arrangements anymore.
12-08-2019, 04:05 PM
#154
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Airplanes
Posts: 1,377
Originally Posted by bruhaha
One thing that is different. There is no need to fill out any travel claims to get your travel reimbursement/mileage/per diem like you have to. No GOV/POV bs. You don’t get to pick your hotel anymore like you used to
Per diem is at the union negotiated rate not the federal GSA rate that you’re used to.
Congress took away our ability to file to get reimbursement between the federal GSA rate and the airline rate a few years ago.
If the hotel shuttle doesn’t arrive within 15 minutes you can take a taxi and submit an expense report for reimbursement. (May or may not be approved - I’m 100% approval on taxi reimbursements so far). If the hotel doesn’t provide the negotiated grab and go. You can also submit for reimbursement from the company.
Crew scheduling is your single point of contact for hotel/travel arrangements. (Good and bad) No more going to the TMO/transportation office to obtain travel arrangements anymore.
Per diem is at the union negotiated rate not the federal GSA rate that you’re used to.
Congress took away our ability to file to get reimbursement between the federal GSA rate and the airline rate a few years ago.
If the hotel shuttle doesn’t arrive within 15 minutes you can take a taxi and submit an expense report for reimbursement. (May or may not be approved - I’m 100% approval on taxi reimbursements so far). If the hotel doesn’t provide the negotiated grab and go. You can also submit for reimbursement from the company.
Crew scheduling is your single point of contact for hotel/travel arrangements. (Good and bad) No more going to the TMO/transportation office to obtain travel arrangements anymore.
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