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JustAMushroom 10-07-2015 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by 8JRMfortheyear (Post 1987065)
If you like to be ****ted on during your wait, then have at it.

Only someone who's never done the regional thing or worked at a sh!!bag outfit would say this. It may be hard for someone to believe that a regional could be better. Senior at good regional means $150-175k and 16 days off without having to watch open time on your days off.
I'm not knocking spirit. I am saying you guys are a lot closer to us than you are to delta.

Qotsaautopilot 10-07-2015 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by JustAMushroom (Post 1987181)
Only someone who's never done the regional thing or worked at a sh!!bag outfit would say this. It may be hard for someone to believe that a regional could be better. Senior at good regional means $150-175k and 16 days off without having to watch open time on your days off.
I'm not knocking spirit. I am saying you guys are a lot closer to us than you are to delta.

I'm not backing up the spirit contact because it is horrendous pay wise. however if you aren't a full time training department pilot there is no way you are making $150-175k with 16 day off at any regional in the country. Even if you were in the training department you would still be watching open time to work doubles occasionally to make that money. You are just wrong.

captlonestar 10-07-2015 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by JustAMushroom (Post 1987181)
Only someone who's never done the regional thing or worked at a sh!!bag outfit would say this. It may be hard for someone to believe that a regional could be better. Senior at good regional means $150-175k and 16 days off without having to watch open time on your days off.
I'm not knocking spirit. I am saying you guys are a lot closer to us than you are to delta.

I'm sorry man but I flew for a good regional (XJT) and I don't know any line CA's that make what your saying with 16 days off. Guys in the training center could pull that but line pilots couldn't. You're In a fantasy land, and that's fine. Just please stay there and enjoy that amazing QOL and pay you have while others leapfrog you

JoeyMeatballs 10-07-2015 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by JustAMushroom (Post 1987181)
Only someone who's never done the regional thing or worked at a sh!!bag outfit would say this. It may be hard for someone to believe that a regional could be better. Senior at good regional means $150-175k and 16 days off without having to watch open time on your days off.
I'm not knocking spirit. I am saying you guys are a lot closer to us than you are to delta.


Clearly you never worked at a regional if you think $150k is the norm, lol

JustAMushroom 10-07-2015 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs (Post 1987284)
Clearly you never worked at a regional if you think $150k is the norm, lol

Ok. Perhaps it's an exagartion. But guys at my seniority have been well north of $100/yr for years now. And I'm not measuring johnsons. I was trying to illustrate the need to (as said earlier) wake up and realize Spirit doesn't have any new orders suggesting and upgrade or a FO pay scale worth leaving a RJ captain spot for.

Qotsaautopilot 10-07-2015 01:46 PM

Big difference between $175k with 16 days off and $100k and 12 days off. That wasn't an exaggeration, it was a lie

WelcomeToBen 10-07-2015 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by JustAMushroom (Post 1987335)
Ok. Perhaps it's an exagartion. But guys at my seniority have been well north of $100/yr for years now. And I'm not measuring johnsons. I was trying to illustrate the need to (as said earlier) wake up and realize Spirit doesn't have any new orders suggesting and upgrade or a FO pay scale worth leaving a RJ captain spot for.

You can't come onto this thread, drastically exaggerate the size of your johnson, and then pretend as though you are not measuring johnsons. For somebody who doesn't appear to be very interested in working for Spirit, you sure seem to be pretty concerned with our pay rates.

captlonestar 10-07-2015 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by JustAMushroom (Post 1987335)
Ok. Perhaps it's an exagartion. But guys at my seniority have been well north of $100/yr for years now. And I'm not measuring johnsons. I was trying to illustrate the need to (as said earlier) wake up and realize Spirit doesn't have any new orders suggesting and upgrade or a FO pay scale worth leaving a RJ captain spot for.

not measuring johnsons here but there is no comparison to a regional. I was a 8 year CA at XJT and I'm back at that compensation at year two pay at spirt with tons of time off. The hourly rate doesn't tell the whole story. The work rules are great here and you can make a lot if you want. It's all gravy after year two for me from here on out. It hurts for sure in the first year, but you have to look at the big picture.

This airline is going to be huge. If you think the growth will stop at 144 then again your not seeing the big picture

gringo 10-07-2015 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by captlonestar (Post 1987352)
This airline is going to be huge. If you think the growth will stop at 144 then again your not seeing the big picture

I've had two Union reps tell me that both Bendo and Baldanza have said this will be a 400 airplane fleet by the time they're done with it.

The gazillion-dollar question, however, is how do we get there from here?

All organically, or merger + additional growth?

Super EZ E 10-07-2015 02:51 PM

You should see our lines! Factor in work rules and this is the place to be. If you need a day off just drop the trip and pick up open time. If you sit reserve drop the days! You don't have to call and ask if they have coverage! You can see it!


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