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Old 10-13-2017, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by B200 Hawk View Post
What is a realistic idea of first year pay? I know the hourly rate but does the standard multiply by 1,000 work here? Some companies and the work rules it doesn't apply. Just trying to get a good understanding financially of what to expect if a move happened.

(Yes I have read through other opinions on here about the current state of the pilot group/company, )
I would say around 28K for first year pay is about average.
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Old 10-13-2017, 08:29 AM
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I had the standard progress through the C-17 Community. UPT (T-37/T-1), C-17 First Pilot (FO), C-17 Aircraft Commander (CA), C-17 Instructor Pilot.



1090 Turbine PIC.

2800 Total


You should go to a regional. Most of them (all of them?) pay you much more the first year (or two possibly). One of the Majors will likely call you shortly assuming you have no blemishes on your resume. I’d look at Envoy or Endeavor. Good luck!
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Old 10-13-2017, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by B200 Hawk View Post
What is a realistic idea of first year pay? I know the hourly rate but does the standard multiply by 1,000 work here? Some companies and the work rules it doesn't apply. Just trying to get a good understanding financially of what to expect if a move happened.

(Yes I have read through other opinions on here about the current state of the pilot group/company, )
Ya 1000 hours credit is fair assumption. 72 is guarantee so that's minimum you'll get. You'll rarely get over with reserve or line. Unless you are free on all your off days to answer phone and work extra (read: have no life and wait by the phone like a schoolgirl). 2 months of training you'll get 1750 total ($1000 month plus $750 per diem). So 1st year equals ~29,780 + any perdiem. Most 1st year guys drop middle reserve day so you dont get 4 day trips . (4 hour reserve day=$146) so it's worth it to lose $146 to greatly increase odds of staying home. And worst case only flying 2-3 day trips.
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Old 10-13-2017, 08:49 AM
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If you bust your ass and you shouldn't plan on maybe $34K if you're lucky! Your career path is better elsewhere. Now during OE plan 40 hours at training pay, not flight pay. You aren't paid till released off OE!!
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Originally Posted by Gators View Post
You should go to a regional. Most of them (all of them?) pay you much more the first year (or two possibly). One of the Majors will likely call you shortly assuming you have no blemishes on your resume. I’d look at Envoy or Endeavor. Good luck!
He's at Skywest he said
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Old 10-13-2017, 09:15 AM
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He's at Skywest he said


Ah my bad... in that case I’d sit tight if you want to go to the big 4. If you truly want to go to Spirit, I guess go to a meet and greet

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Old 10-14-2017, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by B200 Hawk View Post
What is a realistic idea of first year pay? I know the hourly rate but does the standard multiply by 1,000 work here? Some companies and the work rules it doesn't apply. Just trying to get a good understanding financially of what to expect if a move happened.

(Yes I have read through other opinions on here about the current state of the pilot group/company, )
30k give or take a few thousand.

I made $29,900. Didn't have a single classmate make more than 34k.
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Old 10-17-2017, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by flensr View Post
I think he's trying to portray this place as not being good to work at, because of the company's bad-faith approach to the contract negotiation process. I just think its counter-productive to make stuff up or spread disinformation to fellow pilots. The contract will be settled one way or another relatively shortly, but I'll be flying with y'all for another 20 years or more, so in my book, disinformation has a negative career impact for all of us.

Its no secret, that the truth is that spirit management has treated its pilots extremely poorly and disrespectfully during the contract negotiation process. That fact needs no embellishment to stand on its own. The company's position is that they are a ULCC and mgt expects to pad earnings by under-paying our pilots relative to our peers. The bad faith part comes not only from the TRO resulting from the company-induced May schedule meltdown, but also from their continued portrayal of the ULCC business model as being so fragile that it depends on underpaid and low-experience (ie. low tier) pilots in order to remain profitable. I think that's not true, and ALPA has presented our version of the numbers at the mediation sessions to support that opinion.

Again, we don't need to make up stuff about how our schedules suck in order to scare off applicants. Because the truth about the schedules is already out there, and the truth about company management all by itself is going to be enough deterrent for anyone who has options other than Spirit.

If someone wants to discuss trip rig, min guarantees, and how our contract has low average trip credit because of various contract provisions and inefficient scheduling, or other factual items, that's great. That's totally different than trying to say nobody here gets weekends or holidays off. As far as I can tell, QOL comparisons for other airlines have always been fair game. Just don't make up stuff.

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I read there are only four sim sessions before the type rating. How is that possible? Are the sim sessions 8 hours long? Is the newhire checkride taken in the left seat? Does that mean you’re expected to do everything yourself single pilot?

-Thinking about coming over
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Old 10-17-2017, 08:07 PM
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I read there are only four sim sessions before the type rating. How is that possible? Are the sim sessions 8 hours long? Is the newhire checkride taken in the left seat? Does that mean you’re expected to do everything yourself single pilot?

-Thinking about coming over

Haha and this is why our failure rate is closing in on 10%.

This is what this airline has become, guys “thinking of coming over” and shocked by the 4 sims and check ride, with less than a year in 121. Just reading his post and the innocence makes me laugh.

Nothing personal, Injun, but these threads are filled with failures based on guys getting in over their head in the experience area. If 4 sims (4 hours each, you get 2 and your partner gets 2) and a type ride, from the left seat scares you, why risk the pink slip and 121 failure?

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Old 10-18-2017, 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by injun21 View Post
I read there are only four sim sessions before the type rating. How is that possible? Are the sim sessions 8 hours long? Is the newhire checkride taken in the left seat? Does that mean you’re expected to do everything yourself single pilot?

-Thinking about coming over

Think again. Yes single pilot is what you are. The guy in the right seat will run the ECAM and that's about as much help as you get. You are required to be able to learn both flows, Captain and First Officer. This is so Spirit can cut training costs. You guys have been WARNED! Buyer beware of Spirit! *** The lurer of flying an Airbus shouldn't be a deciding factor. The guys getting hired now are going to sit right seat for a long time.
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