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Old 12-23-2016, 06:09 AM
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I didn't think it was our job to sell new prospects on spirit by our postings on the board. If we are convincing them the regionals are better and the pool of applicants starts drying up that will greatly help our bargaining position in the negotiations.
The "regionals" aren't better than Spirit. Envoy is better than Spirit. I'm here to answer any questions and to promote Envoy and help Spirit guys transition there if they desire a real airline and a real career path.

Either your whole pilot force is totally demoralized and a bunch of walking zombies dying to get out of Spirit to anywhere else. Or, you have about 5 or 6 total idiots hijacking your thread beotching and moaning about how awful Spirit life is. I'm going with a totally demoralized pilot force.
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I didn't think it was our job to sell new prospects on spirit by our postings on the board. If we are convincing them the regionals are better and the pool of applicants starts drying up that will greatly help our bargaining position in the negotiations.


What kills me are new hires that still think they will upgrade in 3 years. I am all for you working here if you are soberly looking at the objective facts but......
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Old 12-23-2016, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Dacuj View Post
The "regionals" aren't better than Spirit. Envoy is better than Spirit. I'm here to answer any questions and to promote Envoy and help Spirit guys transition there if they desire a real airline and a real career path.

Either your whole pilot force is totally demoralized and a bunch of walking zombies dying to get out of Spirit to anywhere else. Or, you have about 5 or 6 total idiots hijacking your thread beotching and moaning about how awful Spirit life is. I'm going with a totally demoralized pilot force.
What are the top 10 reasons Envoy is better than Spirit?
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Old 12-23-2016, 07:22 AM
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Envoy is better than Spirit. .
ha...haha...HAHA....BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
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Old 12-23-2016, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by HowlinMad View Post
ha...haha...HAHA....BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
I damn near blew coffee out my nose when I read that too!!! LMAO!!!
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Originally Posted by Dacuj View Post
The "regionals" aren't better than Spirit. Envoy is better than Spirit. I'm here to answer any questions and to promote Envoy and help Spirit guys transition there if they desire a real airline and a real career path.

Either your whole pilot force is totally demoralized and a bunch of walking zombies dying to get out of Spirit to anywhere else. Or, you have about 5 or 6 total idiots hijacking your thread beotching and moaning about how awful Spirit life is. I'm going with a totally demoralized pilot force.
The pathetic thing is that you actually believe the garbage you're selling. That tells me you've got Stockholm Syndrome of the worst kind.
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Old 12-23-2016, 08:18 AM
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What are the top 10 reasons Envoy is better than Spirit?

1. One interview at Envoy.

2. Then, no interview, no medical flow to the largest major airline in the world.

3. You'll likely be in a 175 flying AA routes and which we all know isn't a regional jet.

4. AA flies 787, 777, 767, 757, 737, M80, 321, 320, 319.

5. Massive international network.

6. You won't be stuck on a 320 for your entire career working at some crappy outfit like Spirit with out of date work rules, infrastructure, pay, etc. (i.e. the Mesa of the LCC's)

7. Near top of industry pay.

8. Best in industry non revenue benefits on the worldwide AA network before and after flow.

9. Great health care plan.

10. Great bases around the U.S. to move your family to. Pick your coast or preferred mid America city.
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Dammit.... Now I did blow coffee out my nose!
You know nothing of our health plans, Eaglevoy has only 2 bases (is New York back up and running yet??), the 175 IS an RJ.... Shall I continue?
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What are the top 10 reasons Envoy is better than Spirit?
I'd say 1# would be Cujo works there. That's reason enough to go there.
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Originally Posted by Dacuj View Post
1. One interview at Envoy.



2. Then, no interview, no medical flow to the largest major airline in the world.



3. You'll likely be in a 175 flying AA routes and which we all know isn't a regional jet.



4. AA flies 787, 777, 767, 757, 737, M80, 321, 320, 319.



5. Massive international network.



6. You won't be stuck on a 320 for your entire career working at some crappy outfit like Spirit with out of date work rules, infrastructure, pay, etc. (i.e. the Mesa of the LCC's)



7. Near top of industry pay.



8. Best in industry non revenue benefits on the worldwide AA network before and after flow.



9. Great health care plan.



10. Great bases around the U.S. to move your family to. Pick your coast or preferred mid America city.


AA routes in a ERJ? Sign me up. What does ERJ stand for again?
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