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Old 05-16-2019, 05:21 PM   #1  
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So after the PDX negotiations failed, the company releases lines today and everyone is crying wolf because they don't get turns and are going to be sent on multi day trips?

Think most of you don't realize this company before was an entire different animal, and that being one very sick animal financially. In comparison, we still have 20x more turns built into lines compared to other airlines.

The whole "mob" mentality of pilots needs to stop. You want premium pay because you fly a big 737, fancy meals to fill your beer belly's and want to spend every night in your own bed. It's not going to ever happen. The Company cannot grow or attract any talent if the only base we have is MSP. If you want to be paid like any other major airline you need to operate like them too.
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That's a heck of a first post...��
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You want premium pay because you fly a big 737, fancy meals to fill your beer belly's and want to spend every night in your own bed.
Yep. Or be compensated appropriately for not.
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Old 05-17-2019, 04:42 AM   #4  
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The Company cannot grow or attract any talent if the only base we have is MSP. If you want to be paid like any other major airline you need to operate like them too.
The company can't grow or attract talent because the pay and work rules are worse than most regional airlines. If you want to operate like any other major airline, you need to pay like them too. See how that works?

Then there's PDX... Where to begin...

The Company's "offer" to open PDX and displace pilots there in exchange for absolutely nothing was so atrocious even the arbitrator didn't know what to do with it. It was a transparently bad-faith effort, which is now appearing to have been engineered as a scapegoat to blame growth problems on rather than a sincere attempt at expansion.

The June lines are a big middle finger to the pilot group and everyone knows it. We'll fly them, as professionals do. The C-suite can throw all the tantrums they like. I expect we're in for some more.

I'll never understand how a company that flies aircraft can have such open disdain for the employees it counts on as much as the aircraft itself. It seems as though it would be beneficial to everyone if you saw to it they were taken care of. But, then I guess you wouldn't have letters from the Congressional Ethics Committee personally lambasting you for being a scumbag. That's world-class right there.
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Old 05-17-2019, 09:12 AM   #5  
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So after the PDX negotiations failed, the company releases lines today and everyone is crying wolf because they don't get turns and are going to be sent on multi day trips?

Think most of you don't realize this company before was an entire different animal, and that being one very sick animal financially. In comparison, we still have 20x more turns built into lines compared to other airlines.

The whole "mob" mentality of pilots needs to stop. You want premium pay because you fly a big 737, fancy meals to fill your beer belly's and want to spend every night in your own bed. It's not going to ever happen. The Company cannot grow or attract any talent if the only base we have is MSP. If you want to be paid like any other major airline you need to operate like them too.
Hahahaha. Jeff B. you are a total loser. Does Spanjers know you’re posting on APC? I hope you know the pilots laugh at you on the line. Talk to John about getting you more than 8 days off per month.

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LMAO! Relax gentlemen, it was just a joke. I was being sarcastic

And no this is not Jeff or whoever you think it is.
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LMAO! Relax gentlemen, it was just a joke. I was being sarcastic

And no this is not Jeff or whoever you think it is.
Hahahaha. Sure Jeff B. If you want to be a pilot so bad, get your ratings and join us. I heard Instrument Ratings are hard.
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So for those of us watching from the sidelines, is PDX officially not happening?
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arbitrator did not arbitrate. going back to negotiations.
you should hear some of the things Jude said, i guess he really flew off the handle.
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This weeks update?
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