MQ to SY (Change My Mind)
10-18-2019, 06:16 AM
#11
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 39,261
Originally Posted by Packrat
The only advantage to having the type rating would be having a Company checkride vs. a type rating ride. And you wouldn't even get that until you upgraded at the major airline.
10-19-2019, 01:16 PM
#12
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Joined APC: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,750
Nobody should assume that going to Sun Country will result in an easy type rating. I spent a year there and the training was no joke. I have roots in the area and went there eyes wide open. So none of it caught me off guard. But it was a big pay cut for me leaving a 'quality regional' (oxymoron) and it is most definitely not commuter friendly. It's designed around living in base and there has been turmoil over a rumored distant base.
I'd only really recommend it if you have roots in the MSP area and plan to live there. Don't go there assuming you will skate through training because you won't. People bust rides, which nobody wants. It's likely that someone with significant 121 time won't struggle in training but it was an eye opener for me. Don't underestimate it.
If I were looking to leave Envoy I'd look at the other ULCCs first. They would appear to have a more solid future. Again, for people with no connection to the Twin Cities, Sun Country is a bit of an odd choice. For people with a connection, it's logical but ask around. I'm glad I spent a year there and I won't bad mouth the place, but I'm also glad I had the opportunity to move to a larger, more stable airline.
I'd only really recommend it if you have roots in the MSP area and plan to live there. Don't go there assuming you will skate through training because you won't. People bust rides, which nobody wants. It's likely that someone with significant 121 time won't struggle in training but it was an eye opener for me. Don't underestimate it.
If I were looking to leave Envoy I'd look at the other ULCCs first. They would appear to have a more solid future. Again, for people with no connection to the Twin Cities, Sun Country is a bit of an odd choice. For people with a connection, it's logical but ask around. I'm glad I spent a year there and I won't bad mouth the place, but I'm also glad I had the opportunity to move to a larger, more stable airline.
10-21-2019, 05:07 PM
#13
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Joined APC: Sep 2018
Position: B-52 IP/EP
Posts: 10
Originally Posted by saab2000
Nobody should assume that going to Sun Country will result in an easy type rating. I spent a year there and the training was no joke. I have roots in the area and went there eyes wide open. So none of it caught me off guard. But it was a big pay cut for me leaving a 'quality regional' (oxymoron) and it is most definitely not commuter friendly. It's designed around living in base and there has been turmoil over a rumored distant base.
I'd only really recommend it if you have roots in the MSP area and plan to live there. Don't go there assuming you will skate through training because you won't. People bust rides, which nobody wants. It's likely that someone with significant 121 time won't struggle in training but it was an eye opener for me. Don't underestimate it.
If I were looking to leave Envoy I'd look at the other ULCCs first. They would appear to have a more solid future. Again, for people with no connection to the Twin Cities, Sun Country is a bit of an odd choice. For people with a connection, it's logical but ask around. I'm glad I spent a year there and I won't bad mouth the place, but I'm also glad I had the opportunity to move to a larger, more stable airline.
I'd only really recommend it if you have roots in the MSP area and plan to live there. Don't go there assuming you will skate through training because you won't. People bust rides, which nobody wants. It's likely that someone with significant 121 time won't struggle in training but it was an eye opener for me. Don't underestimate it.
If I were looking to leave Envoy I'd look at the other ULCCs first. They would appear to have a more solid future. Again, for people with no connection to the Twin Cities, Sun Country is a bit of an odd choice. For people with a connection, it's logical but ask around. I'm glad I spent a year there and I won't bad mouth the place, but I'm also glad I had the opportunity to move to a larger, more stable airline.
I'm just finishing OE now, and the LCAs are great! Professional, firm yet fair, all that typical pilot stuff.As for the company itself, we have got some new management that seem like we're about to get after it in a good way. I am still happy to be here! However, I live in the Twin Cities, want nothing to do with commuting, and can't believe guys that do.
11-13-2019, 03:10 PM
#14
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Joined APC: Nov 2019
Posts: 1
Originally Posted by Packrat
All the majors want is Part 121 Turbine PIC time. Doesn't matter if its in a 737 or an E175. ...
(Why am I on the forum? I used to and will soon again fly a lot on SY, and a few years ago I tried to get my son to apply to fly for them.)
11-15-2019, 08:42 AM
#15
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Joined APC: Sep 2015
Position: UNA
Posts: 4,416
Originally Posted by rickair7777
FO's pretty much all get the type rating today, to comply with ICAO. If you have the type is does provide a slight theoretical advantage as to how the checkride is conducted (more flexibility for re-training).
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