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Old 09-14-2021, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by S4User View Post
Thanks for that info.

What do you mean regarding the pay cut if you upgrade? And you start reserve all over for 3-5 months or is it shorter that time around?

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While the CA rate is higher, you're on reserve making 70 hours with no ability to pick up. A mid to upper level FO lineholder can easily bring in 110 hours of credit in a month by picking up a couple premium pay trips. If you credit over 104 hours as an FO you make more $ than 70 hour captain, if that makes sense.

Not sure I understand your second question, but how long you spend on reserve as a captain is a function of how long you wait to upgrade. If you take first available upgrade as the bottom captain, it's going to be a while as the movement on the captain list is slow. If you wait it out and let people upgrade behind you and upgrade later, you can theoretically avoid CA reserve completely. Just depends on where you are on the seniority list.
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Old 09-14-2021, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by eagleflight06 View Post
While the CA rate is higher, you're on reserve making 70 hours with no ability to pick up. A mid to upper level FO lineholder can easily bring in 110 hours of credit in a month by picking up a couple premium pay trips. If you credit over 104 hours as an FO you make more $ than 70 hour captain, if that makes sense.
Absolutely correct! Quite easy to credit 110-130 plus, In addition, you have generally a significant amount of control over your schedule!
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Old 09-14-2021, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Starlifter View Post
Absolutely correct! Quite easy to credit 110-130 plus, In addition, you have generally a significant amount of control over your schedule!
If you upgrade at the first available, plan to be in reserve for 2.5-3 years. Once you can hold a line, plan on min days off along with uncommutable and inefficient five and six day trips (that are difficult to drop and replace with premium pay trips) for a few more years. You can plan for long (>24 hours) layovers in garden spots like PIT, AFW, or GPT, along with a lot of offline deadheads (“middle-seat-express”). And significant amount of red eye flying on NCAA and MLS charters. It’s not fun. I can’t fault anyone who bypasses the upgrade.
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Old 09-15-2021, 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by eagleflight06 View Post
While the CA rate is higher, you're on reserve making 70 hours with no ability to pick up. A mid to upper level FO lineholder can easily bring in 110 hours of credit in a month by picking up a couple premium pay trips. If you credit over 104 hours as an FO you make more $ than 70 hour captain, if that makes sense.



Not sure I understand your second question, but how long you spend on reserve as a captain is a function of how long you wait to upgrade. If you take first available upgrade as the bottom captain, it's going to be a while as the movement on the captain list is slow. If you wait it out and let people upgrade behind you and upgrade later, you can theoretically avoid CA reserve completely. Just depends on where you are on the seniority list.
Gotcha, that answers my questions. Thanks!

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Old 09-15-2021, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DashTrash508 View Post
If you upgrade at the first available, plan to be in reserve for 2.5-3 years. Once you can hold a line, plan on min days off along with uncommutable and inefficient five and six day trips (that are difficult to drop and replace with premium pay trips) for a few more years. You can plan for long (>24 hours) layovers in garden spots like PIT, AFW, or GPT, along with a lot of offline deadheads (“middle-seat-express”). And significant amount of red eye flying on NCAA and MLS charters. It’s not fun. I can’t fault anyone who bypasses the upgrade.
The uncommutable portion sounds like it will drive away the majority of potential hires
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Old 09-15-2021, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Tryin2b View Post
The <insert literally anything here> portion sounds like it will drive away the majority of potential hires
Fixed it for you
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