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6ix9ineYearFlow 12-27-2021 11:23 AM

Industry Consolidation & Mergers
 
In addition to the 4 largest U.S. airlines (American, Delta, United, & Southwest), we have 10 other carriers fighting primarily for domestic market share: Alaska, Hawaiian, JetBlue, Spirit, Frontier, Allegiant, Sun Country -- and recently Breeze, Avelo, Airbahn. The legacies are going to have to fight to defend territory while dealing with the continued impact on business and international travel due to COVID. The low cost model, while resilient in many ways, is not without its weaknesses. Issues with inflation, labor, oil cost, and so on spell turbulent times ahead.

All that said, what do Sun Country pilots believe is going to happen to Sun Country in the coming years -- and why?

nibake 12-27-2021 11:52 AM

I'm going with continued growth on current trajectory. I do believe there will likely be a merger someday, but today is not that day. With whom? Hard to tell. The next time things get shaken up in the industry, whether that be 2 years or a decade from now, a merger seems likely. But for now, the only reality is continued growth in the defined niches.

BUMBLE 12-27-2021 12:01 PM

SunCountry will receive a 7 year deal for 10 A330s and 8 additional 738s extending the current Amazon contract to run concurrently with the current deal. And also become the exclusive Kpop carrier on behalf of BTS with its first pax A330.

Raw Data 12-28-2021 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by BUMBLE (Post 3342725)
SunCountry will receive a 7 year deal for 10 A330s and 8 additional 738s extending the current Amazon contract to run concurrently with the current deal. And also become the exclusive Kpop carrier on behalf of BTS with its first pax A330.

I heard that one too. I think we are bidding on the Backstreet Boys, Nsync and New Kids On The Block tour as well, the Tennis Balls On My Walker tour.

To answer your question, no one will wanna merge with us after we sign on to fly boy bands and indrogenous Korean dance teams. We'll just be good 'ol Sun Country in perpetuity.

beech1980 12-28-2021 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by BUMBLE (Post 3342725)
SunCountry will receive a 7 year deal for 10 A330s and 8 additional 738s extending the current Amazon contract to run concurrently with the current deal. And also become the exclusive Kpop carrier on behalf of BTS with its first pax A330.

I wouldn’t be surprised in the next 12-24 months sun country gets delivered or awarded another 10-12 737’s and 10-20 A330 freighters from Amazon, Keeps adding 5-7 passenger 737’s a year and a good amount of A330 passenger planes if they fly them for Amazon. I also think if the other airlines get contracts in the next 12-24 months that put sun country back in last place they will not be able to achieve that growth. I think more money will have to be added to the contract before it becomes amendable either in rates or QOL.

CRJJ 12-28-2021 12:37 PM

Is there a deadline for Amazon to announce who's getting those planes? Or its just a rumor at this point.

prettyflyssi 12-28-2021 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by CRJJ (Post 3343271)
Is there a deadline for Amazon to announce who's getting those planes? Or its just a rumor at this point.

Big news this Friday.

CaptainSlow 12-28-2021 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by prettyflyssi (Post 3343288)
Big news this Friday.


Teabag Bandit? Is that you?


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BUMBLE 12-28-2021 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by CRJJ (Post 3343271)
Is there a deadline for Amazon to announce who's getting those planes? Or its just a rumor at this point.

its a fact that the 330 bid is in and it should be announced by Amazon in January.

Possibly on a Friday…

CRJJ 12-28-2021 02:07 PM

Well, best of luck. I do have a couple of friends flying for SC and they have good things to say. I hope we get a few of those 330 at Atlas, I've always loved that plane


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