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01-26-2023, 07:55 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by CBrF3
What's causing the training delays? I'm trying to understand why SY is so backed up when the FO pay is higher elsewhere. Obviously the type rating is appealing, but am I missing something?
As far as the actual training delays, a lot of that just boils down to the company hiring more people than they can fit through the pipeline. The company has almost doubled its pre-COVID size, lots of growing pains with that. They need people to upgrade more than they need FO's currently, so CA upgrades are taking priority with sims and OE. Our new training center recently opened, hopefully that will help as we slowly gain more sim capacity. They also just added a bunch more OE lines, so hopefully that helps. Still probably a good amount of delays for the foreseeable future. I am not very clued in on what is going on with the last few classes.
01-27-2023, 04:47 AM
#32
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Originally Posted by CBrF3
What's causing the training delays? I'm trying to understand why SY is so backed up when the FO pay is higher elsewhere. Obviously the type rating is appealing, but am I missing something?
There’s probably other reasons not so evident to the pilot group. Hope that gives you perspective.
As far as recruiting, not hard to find ten or twenty good FOs to come here. Minneapolis/St. Paul urban area is, what, 2 million plus? Driving to work > commuting. Sunny’s problem is the well advertised captain shortage. Someone else will need to explain that. There are growth plans but they appear to attrite half of what they hire.
Should be a great spring/summer for open time $$$.
01-30-2023, 07:06 AM
#33
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Joined APC: Jan 2023
Posts: 20
Originally Posted by iLikeMoose
In everything except the year 1 pay rates, Sunny is still a way better place to be at than a regional. The new legacy contracts will likely leave us further in the dust relative to them, but would still so much rather be here than a regional, for total earnings and QOL potential. Especially since the regionals are looking more and more like a sinking ship.
As far as the actual training delays, a lot of that just boils down to the company hiring more people than they can fit through the pipeline. The company has almost doubled its pre-COVID size, lots of growing pains with that. They need people to upgrade more than they need FO's currently, so CA upgrades are taking priority with sims and OE. Our new training center recently opened, hopefully that will help as we slowly gain more sim capacity. They also just added a bunch more OE lines, so hopefully that helps. Still probably a good amount of delays for the foreseeable future. I am not very clued in on what is going on with the last few classes.
As far as the actual training delays, a lot of that just boils down to the company hiring more people than they can fit through the pipeline. The company has almost doubled its pre-COVID size, lots of growing pains with that. They need people to upgrade more than they need FO's currently, so CA upgrades are taking priority with sims and OE. Our new training center recently opened, hopefully that will help as we slowly gain more sim capacity. They also just added a bunch more OE lines, so hopefully that helps. Still probably a good amount of delays for the foreseeable future. I am not very clued in on what is going on with the last few classes.
Originally Posted by R0GER BALL
Its a matter of scale. Appears they can train 10 FOs/5 upgrades and an instructor or two per class, per month (January size) but couldn’t train 20/10 as they attempted last summer. We don’t have “training centers”. We have our hanger classrooms plus a CAE and a AFG sim. The big growth in OE lines next month is up to- ten.
There’s probably other reasons not so evident to the pilot group. Hope that gives you perspective.
As far as recruiting, not hard to find ten or twenty good FOs to come here. Minneapolis/St. Paul urban area is, what, 2 million plus? Driving to work > commuting. Sunny’s problem is the well advertised captain shortage. Someone else will need to explain that. There are growth plans but they appear to attrite half of what they hire.
Should be a great spring/summer for open time $$$.
There’s probably other reasons not so evident to the pilot group. Hope that gives you perspective.
As far as recruiting, not hard to find ten or twenty good FOs to come here. Minneapolis/St. Paul urban area is, what, 2 million plus? Driving to work > commuting. Sunny’s problem is the well advertised captain shortage. Someone else will need to explain that. There are growth plans but they appear to attrite half of what they hire.
Should be a great spring/summer for open time $$$.
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