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Old 06-13-2017, 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by C130driver View Post
It's usually due to obstacles that penetrate the standard protections of the 200-1/2 transition to visual segment. Not sure exactly what it is but TERPS/FAA has a specific criteria for obstacle protection on various segments of an approach. Similarly, instead of or including higher HATT you'll see a steeper glidepath.

On a similar note, if you ever see a non precision approach without a VDP published, it means there are obstacles protruding the protection area for a normal 3* glidepath, meaning depart the MDA at your own risk at night or IMC even with the runway clearly in sight.
Do you mean VDA instead of VDP?
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Old 06-13-2017, 03:57 AM
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200' and 1/2 are the lowest authorized mins for generic cat I, but that doesn't mean they all have to go that low.
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Old 06-13-2017, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR View Post
Do you mean VDA instead of VDP?
Nope, VDP (visual decent point,) often published on a non precision approach indicating the point from which you should start your decent from MDA to assume a normal glidepath to the runway. Lack of a VDP means that there are obstacles in the protected zone of that glide path. It's a lawyerism for sure.
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Old 06-13-2017, 09:38 AM
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ILS 16R at KRNO has DH of 2,000' and min visibility of 7 miles.

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Old 06-13-2017, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by joepilot View Post
ILS 16R at KRNO has DH of 2,000' and min visibility of 7 miles.

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And for good reason, the airport sits in a bowl surrounded by 10k peaks...makes for interesting weather in the winter...but some of the best skiing in the world
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Old 06-13-2017, 07:54 PM
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ILS 26 Rifle, CO. used to require 7 miles. Now it's 4 sm vis and 1263 AGL. Fairly common in mountainous areas.
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Sat-based and AR approaches are making many of these a thing of the past. There are still plenty, like the examples given, but technology is starting to be leveraged. It started with those LPV approaches years ago to 250 and 200' minimums. Even at 300 feet you suddenly had capability at airports that had either nothing or crazy high mins. At some point RNAV RNP approaches using curving paths will be available to more aircraft and systems.
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Old 06-14-2017, 06:30 AM
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I seem to recall once a TREE grew too tall between surveys and made it necessary to issue an FDC NOTAM for new mins of 275' / 3/4.This tree was in the missed approach segment.
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Last year sometime, the LOC to one of the runways in CKB got you lower than the ILS to the same runway.
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Old 06-14-2017, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by joepilot View Post
ILS 16R at KRNO has DH of 2,000' and min visibility of 7 miles.



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They changed the approaches last year now they are 200 and 1/2... you do need a 390'/nm climb to 8k, however.
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