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PearlPilot 02-22-2009 03:26 PM

What makes you extra cautious?
 
In reference to a youtube video (YouTube - AIR ATLANTA B747-400), the Captain of the Air Atlanta flight downloads these charts created by a Lufthansa Captain that has escape routes, runway frequencies and much more goodies. Website for charts I found this to be very interesting. So I am curious to know what everybody else does that goes beyond getting the job done. What else do you do to be extra cautious and what makes you unique as a pilot when it comes to safety? Thanks.

KC10 FATboy 02-22-2009 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by PearlPilot (Post 564953)
In reference to a youtube video (YouTube - AIR ATLANTA B747-400), the Captain of the Air Atlanta flight downloads these charts created by a Lufthansa Captain that has escape routes, runway frequencies and much more goodies. Website for charts I found this to be very interesting. So I am curious to know what everybody else does that goes beyond getting the job done. What else do you do to be extra cautious and what makes you unique as a pilot when it comes to safety? Thanks.

I think using a set of charts made by someone who assumes no responsibility if he's wrong isn't very safe and would probably result in a long talk with a check airman if they saw caught you using them. Why not just use the materials provided by your company? If they aren't good enough, make suggestions for a change. Sure, in a pinch these are cool, but I would always go back to the source document if I could.

HSLD 02-22-2009 04:43 PM

Guys who spend their days off replicating Jepps charts make me extra cautious! :D

PearlPilot 02-22-2009 05:28 PM

He was of course using them as a supplement in that case... He looked like he was really into the job so that would explain why he would be inclined to go beyond what is needed.

Thedude 02-23-2009 12:32 AM

I have downloaded the escape routes for the HKG area. Its nice to have a little better idea to head in the event I shtcan 2 engines and have to driftdown on the other 2 over the 22,000'+ mountains. The one I have gives a little more info and jumps out at you a little better than just looking at an enroute chart.

I have also d/l'ed a emergency divert map for the Pac Rim, that some guy at UAL made up. Good stuff

SpyGlass 02-23-2009 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 564988)
I think using a set of charts made by someone who assumes no responsibility if he's wrong isn't very safe and would probably result in a long talk with a check airman if they saw caught you using them. Why not just use the materials provided by your company? If they aren't good enough, make suggestions for a change. Sure, in a pinch these are cool, but I would always go back to the source document if I could.

A bit of added situational awareness never hurt anyone...

johnso29 02-24-2009 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by PearlPilot (Post 564953)
In reference to a youtube video (YouTube - AIR ATLANTA B747-400), the Captain of the Air Atlanta flight downloads these charts created by a Lufthansa Captain that has escape routes, runway frequencies and much more goodies. Website for charts I found this to be very interesting. So I am curious to know what everybody else does that goes beyond getting the job done. What else do you do to be extra cautious and what makes you unique as a pilot when it comes to safety? Thanks.

I avoid Mexican food!:D:D

I always try to enhance my situational awareness. When I was a CFI/CFII/MEI I always told my students that if they were ever flying and airplane and not doing something, they were already falling behind.

My time at ExpressJet took me down to Mexico a lot. That involved mountain flying, and you always had to be thinking. Always be thinking about alternate airports, alternate alternate airports, MEAs, MOCAs, and where you can or can't go. There were sometimes thunderstorms, mountains, and areas that exceeded the operational performance of the airplanes in a single engine situation, so you always had to be ready.

Point being, I am always trying to enhance my situational awareness by identifying threats and defenses.


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