Airbus SOP single engine taxi question
#1
Airbus SOP single engine taxi question
The Airbus procedue for single engine taxi is to turn the APU bleed off and put the X-bleed selector to -open.
I know at USAirways and Jet Blue, they leave the APU bleed on and X-bleed in -auto instead. I'm looking for information on what is SOP at, UA, Northwest/Delta and Spirit.
I would really appreciate any information you folks have on the procedure.
Thanks
I know at USAirways and Jet Blue, they leave the APU bleed on and X-bleed in -auto instead. I'm looking for information on what is SOP at, UA, Northwest/Delta and Spirit.
I would really appreciate any information you folks have on the procedure.
Thanks
#2
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Delta
We use the APU with X-bleed in AUTO. We only use x-bleed starts if the APU is inop. Normal SE taxi out is with #1 Bleed ON, X-Bleed OPEN, and APU Bleed OFF. This allows the #1 engine bleed to supply both packs, and (the book says) this keeps the engine exaust from contaminating the air conditioning via the APU intake/bleed, which is why we don't turn the APU bleed on until right before the 2nd start.
From our Manual:
DELAYED START PROCEDURE:
ENG MODE selector: IGN/START
Cross Bleed Selector: Rotate Auto
APU Bleed pb: ON
Engine #2 Bleed pb: Verify ON
Y ELEC PUMP pb: OFF
Engine Start Procedure: Accomplish
After engine start:
ENG MODE selector: NORM
APU BLEED pb: OFF
ENG ANTI ICE: as reqd
APU MASTER SW pb: OFF (may remain ON for MDM considerations)
Flight Controls: ckd
DELAYED START checklist
Hope this helps.
From our Manual:
DELAYED START PROCEDURE:
ENG MODE selector: IGN/START
Cross Bleed Selector: Rotate Auto
APU Bleed pb: ON
Engine #2 Bleed pb: Verify ON
Y ELEC PUMP pb: OFF
Engine Start Procedure: Accomplish
After engine start:
ENG MODE selector: NORM
APU BLEED pb: OFF
ENG ANTI ICE: as reqd
APU MASTER SW pb: OFF (may remain ON for MDM considerations)
Flight Controls: ckd
DELAYED START checklist
Hope this helps.
#3
Thanks for the info. Your procedure looks like it's straight from Airbus. The only problem is that it runs the N1 of the operating engine to 24% vs 19% and ups the fuel flow by 200 PPH at idle.
I'm trying to develop some data and see if my company is interested in changing procedure. Again, thanks for your input.
Cheers
I'm trying to develop some data and see if my company is interested in changing procedure. Again, thanks for your input.
Cheers
#4
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2008
Posts: 879
Thanks for the info. Your procedure looks like it's straight from Airbus. The only problem is that it runs the N1 of the operating engine to 24% vs 19% and ups the fuel flow by 200 PPH at idle.
I'm trying to develop some data and see if my company is interested in changing procedure. Again, thanks for your input.
Cheers
I'm trying to develop some data and see if my company is interested in changing procedure. Again, thanks for your input.
Cheers
#5
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Joined APC: Oct 2005
Position: Office Chair
Posts: 629
At Frontier it's APU bleed on, crossbleed to Auto. Running both packs on one engine with the APU at idle burns more gas than running both packs on the APU. If you want real fuel savings, do APU off, and crossbleed AUTO until you do the crossbleed engine start. One pack will keep up with the AC requirements just fine under any circumstances I've seen.
#6
LOL. I hope you guys get justice and equity in the process. Something not commonplace in big corporations.
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