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MtnPeakCruiser 03-29-2011 07:10 AM

For iPad owners. WAAS capable external GPS
 
For every pilot already addicted to this incredible little device. Safe flying!

A way to mount your iPad in the cockpit, receive WAAS (10m) GPS accuracy (with a wifi or 3G iPad), and a way to place that GPS within clear view of satellites!

Various iPad cockpit mounting choices from Ram Mounts.
Aviation Mounts


WAAS capable BadElf GPS.
Bad Elf | Bad Elf GPS for iPod touch, iPhone, & iPad


An 2ft or 6ft Extension Cable to put the BadElf GPS in clear view of satellites.
dockXtender: Dock Extender Cable for iPad, iPhone and iPod

AbortAbortAbort 03-29-2011 09:24 AM

How long until somebody puts one in the dirt trying to use the iPad on an approach? We'll have people using the GPS over chart layout trying to shoot approaches they aren't equipped for.

EvilMonkey 03-29-2011 08:04 PM

Now the idiot passengers will think they're pilots because they bought an iPad. As if the iPhone wasn't bad enough...

Sent from my iPhone

AbortAbortAbort 03-29-2011 10:21 PM

Can't you see it now?

Passenger: "Captain I was following us on my iPad coming in to land and we went way out here over this lake before coming back in to land. That doesn't make any sense. We clearly could have cut right over the city and landed on that runway right there and saved like ten minutes of time."

Captain: (long pause and studious look) "You know...you're right. Why don't I just unbutton these epaulettes right here and you can tape them on your t-shirt."

EvilMonkey 03-29-2011 11:29 PM


Can't you see it now?

Passenger: "Captain I was following us on my iPad coming in to land and we went way out here over this lake before coming back in to land. That doesn't make any sense. We clearly could have cut right over the city and landed on that runway right there and saved like ten minutes of time."

Captain: (long pause and studious look) "You know...you're right. Why don't I just unbutton these epaulettes right here and you can tape them on your t-shirt."
I can hear the ding of the FA now..."A guy in first wants me to tell you that the weather in Chicago has cleared and we should be able to leave now. He checked on his iPad. He says if you need to, you can borrow it to shoot an approach down to WAAS mins..."

At which point I will come unglued, relieve the liquor cart of it's Heineken, and bid farewell with a slide deployment...

topprospect16 03-30-2011 06:56 AM

The GNS5870 is not only cheaper, it has better battery life and unlike the Bad Elf, you can leave your iPad on a charger. The GNS uses Bluetooth to talk to the iPad rather than connecting to it directly. I wouldn't shoot an ILS with it, but it's a great tool with Foreflight/Beacon North America Apps. It's funny how my lap has better avionics than my panel in my C150

NoyGonnaDoIt 03-31-2011 02:13 PM

Even on some aviation boards folks seen to get excited about WAAS in an iPad. Personally, can't figure it out. You don't even need WAAS to fly an LNAV instrument approach - all WAAS really gives you from an aviation standpoint is (a) vertical guidance approaches and (b) the ability to forego having gound-based systems on board.

Neither of which mean a hill of beans in the context of an iPad.

bcaviator 03-31-2011 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by NoyGonnaDoIt (Post 973601)
Even on some aviation boards folks seen to get excited about WAAS in an iPad. Personally, can't figure it out. You don't even need WAAS to fly an LNAV instrument approach - all WAAS really gives you from an aviation standpoint is (a) vertical guidance approaches and (b) the ability to forego having gound-based systems on board.

Neither of which mean a hill of beans in the context of an iPad.

WAAS uses ground based equipment. :)

It is pretty sweet to go down to a DA 300ft agl (or lower) to air airport in the middle of nowhere.

NoyGonnaDoIt 03-31-2011 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by bcaviator (Post 973609)
WAAS uses ground based equipment. :)

It is pretty sweet to go down to a DA 300ft agl (or lower) to air airport in the middle of nowhere.

Absolutely! WAAS augmentation is agreat boon - "precision" approaches without the cost of an ILS. But for an iPad it does nothing.

bcaviator 03-31-2011 02:41 PM

Yeah, I don't know. Maybe the ability to access additional satellite(s) had some additional GPS reliability. But I definitely see your point. I think any overlay on the Ipad is too much. I also see CFIT issues with this. The Ipad needs to be backup only IMO.


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