Originally Posted by 2xAGM114
(Post 2030022)
Discussed with an instructor, issue resolved. As mentioned above, in this particular case it's a conventional SID which does not fall into any of the other categories: RNAV, ODP, SDP, etc. FMS addicts, myself included, may feel obligated to fly the command bars to maintain what the box defines as the ground track, but there is nothing preventing an aircraft from flying raw data to join the first radial. No specific company policy in this case.
While AIM 5-2-10 makes mention on "maintaining lateral ground track" no where is it defined what that is or what the obstacle clearance is on either side of the TERPSed area. If obstacles/terrain were an issue, an ODP would have been used. If the TERPSter had wanted aircraft to fly a specific ground track for another reason, it would have been an RNAV DP. The fact that the conventional SID can pulled from the database is more of a convenience. Thanks for the responses. Learning has occurred! |
Originally Posted by ajcucinella
(Post 2039273)
As stated from a few others, flying a SID with or without AP is not stated specifically in the FARs, but may be viewed through company policy. However, I agree with Dreamfighter's statement about using AP to reduce workload. Although hand flying a SID may not be demanding at all; it is important to be efficient by utilizing any and all tools/info. that is accessible. It seems to me that a pilot would become more efficient by monitoring the AP as it progressed through the SID; meanwhile, the pilot could also continue his/her scan on other instruments, to make sure everything is "up to par" and in good condition.
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Originally Posted by joepilot
(Post 2039853)
I think that you are referring to RVSM airspace, not MNPS.
I have done this, back in the mists of time, and well before RVSM. Joe |
Not only can you hand fly in MNPS, you can do it in RVSM, too.
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Originally Posted by cencal83406
(Post 2043111)
It's a wive's tale that you can't hand fly in RVSM. Don't people read the ACs about these? My company specifically only requires level off and altitude hold be accomplished by the AP.
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
(Post 2043426)
If the autopilot is holding altitude for you, what are you doing when you're "hand flying?"
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Originally Posted by cencal83406
(Post 2043598)
Was this a real question?
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
(Post 2043613)
Did the punctuation not make it so? Or are you asking rhetorically?
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Originally Posted by cencal83406
(Post 2043712)
Rhetorically. :) I was a bit incredulous that "climbing/descending" wasn't something you considered.
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
(Post 2043884)
I didn't address it at all. You've no idea what I considered. I addressed your comment only. Read.
Why so serious? You asked "If the autopilot is holding altitude for you, what are you doing when you are "hand flying"?" The answer to the question what are you doing when hand flying is climbing or descending. If the A/P is holding altitude, you are not hand flying. Sorry if I didn't make it clear. |
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