CCpounder

Yeah I know, I was being sarcastic lol

brokepilot2

Anyone know how attrition numbers were in April? Was it another mass exodus like March?

flysooner9

Two more simulators coming online by the end of May. Will help to eliminate the back log.

havick206

They’ve been saying the exact same thing the last 18 months every other month.

Knobcrk1

As long as it’s not more than 10 a month it should be ok to at least keep current levels.. they seem to do about 5 per class every two weeks. Also there’s a lot of helicopter guys who are here but not really here because they’re flying at home trying to get their required fixed wing hours. Pretty much all the new hires are helicopter hires, although it’s disconcerting that they would have literally nobody show up if it wasn’t for the helicopter program.

brokepilot2

Half of the helo guys aren’t making it through. And from what I’ve heard about the ones who do make it through, you better be on your A-game the whole 4 days.

I know we lost 20+ pilots in March. I would really like to know if that continued into April. If attrition keeps being higher than the number recruiting can get in the door, this place is screwed.

aTl2017

[QUOTE=brokepilot2;2583890]Half of the helo guys aren’t making it through. And from what I’ve heard about the ones who do make it through, you better be on your A-game the whole 4 days.


Hey care to explain? I am thinking of making the transition myself and thats the first I've heard anything specifically negative about the Helo guys going through the programs. I can imagine some reasonable justifications to your statement, but maybe some elaboration... Have some friends that are already in the mix and they have seemed all positive by and large.

Pilottim79

[QUOTE=aTl2017;2584051]
I don't know what he is specifically getting at, but the helo guys, from my understanding, struggle because of lack of airplane experience. I mean they come in with, what? 200 hrs in an airplane and straight to an advanced jet. They need to study harder and put more time in outside of the classroom to succeed. I think that has proven to be fact just due to the washout rate. Nothing against those guys. They are probably all very smart and capable guys, they are just starting from a little bit of a hole.

brokepilot2

[QUOTE=Pilottim79;2584110]This is what I was getting at. They really struggle to keep up with the airplane. Even if they are successful making it through training it takes them a few hundred hours to finally get up to speed in the jet. It comes from lack of experience in a fixed wing. I'm sure every one of those guys can fly the **** out of a helicopter, but its a big transition to fixed wing. It's definitely nothing against the guys coming over, but they should understand that being successful here will be an uphill battle.

aTl2017

[QUOTE=Pilottim79;2584110]Understood, and I would have to say that was my thought process as well. I have hesitations about the way the training is being done prior to company training by and large. Again, totally legal, and for some can work out just fine. Its the most cost effective way.

I'm thinking about approaching it slightly differently. I have a large school near the house, one that already offers "airline track" type training and has agreements with several regionals. They would prefer if I do an RTP, to cut out the hour building component, and be a CFI with them until the 5-6 month "deadline." CFI's fly easily 80-100/mo there. I thought this may be a little better use of the program and may even come out of the program slightly more prepared to move forward. I've held a helicopter CFI certificate for 4 years now and while its certainly not my first or second choice to go back to that, I enjoyed it while I was doing it. As best one can. Just my 2 cents.