FO Pay
 

What can a first year FO expect to make without bonuses? Talking gross, take home, per diem etc. Thanks

I would strongly suggest looking elsewhere. Sounds like everybody is leaving as quickly as possible.

The regionals are in denial that they need to raise pay to get pilots. If Hulas doesn't want to pay he can part the planes.

Same with Skywest and the others. Shut them down until they pay enough to get pilots to go to work. Its called the "market".

These regionals want to pay for a house what they could have bought the house for in 2009. No, they don't get the house.

^^^This.

Every person I’ve flown with recently is doing whatever they can to get out. The only FO’s I’ve talked to that are planning on staying are those who are close to upgrade or are close to getting their 1000 121-hours so they can go to Envoy and be a DEC. There is no good reason to come to TSA anymore unless you’re a masochist and enjoy getting bent over by the company on the daily.

There’s a reason why 99% of new hires are helo guys. Literally they would have no one come to class if they didn’t pay for helo transition.

Of course everyone is trying to get out. It’s always been that way. Regionals are not and have never been a final destination.

That said, I would suggest someone think long and hard before bailing for another regional. Make sure you understand and have your reasons well defined before you make the leap.

Along those same lines, before anyone picks a regional these days needs to make sure they are going somewhere that works for them. Several years ago you basically went to whoever called first (assuming more than one called, but was sometimes just one). Now we have the luxury of being picky, so be picky and smart.

All regionals are awful, but some are more awful than others.

It has not always been the case that significant numbers leave one regional for another regional.

Because as recently as 2-3 years ago, you would take a paycut back down to $22k/year. Plus there was a slew of regionals with crap training pay or didn't pay for training hotels, then you get released to reserve making $24 per hour with no commuter hotels. I guarantee that step down to poverty wages for at least the first year was enough to keep most people from jumping ship even from the worst places.

Now places are offering $20k bonuses on day one or shortly after finishing training. Hourly pay is in the ballpark of $40/hour. With the bonuses being offered it isn't a pay cut to jump from company to company, and oftentimes, it is a raise. All while chasing quick upgrade, flow, shiny jets, [insert whatever carrot of the week].

I was an FO during the old pay, no bonuses, so I can't speak for that.

75hours x $37 x 12mo = $33,300 - that's your min guarantee salary.


Virtually everyone is crediting at least 85 hours per month. So that is $3145 per month once you're out of training + at least $500-600 in per diem. ~$3700-3800 before bonuses. Your take-home will be at least 2/3 of that. (probably more, but it depends on your insurance plan, tax brackets, how much you're sending to the 401k etc.)

Thanks don’t the info, I have turned down the offer from trans states. Having second thoughts on joining the industry period after hearing all the comments on many of the different airline forums.