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Piedmont is filling late February and March classes. PM me for details.

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Originally Posted by pnwchief22 (Post 2972940)

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TWA or TSA? Just about had a heart attack when I saw your title. 😀

Anybody hear anything new from TSA on when they are going to get FO's back in class?

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Originally Posted by SuperFlyCFI (Post 2974179)

Anybody hear anything new from TSA on when they are going to get FO's back in class?

Nothing official but supposedly they’ll resume FO classes around May.

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Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2971640)

Doesn't take much prognostication to read the retirement graphs, it's only getting better (for us, not management) over the next few years.

We've seen LCC's hire experienced regional FO's prior to upgrade (1000-2000 hours 121) for a few years now.

Now it looks like they're starting to use the regionals as 121 training filters... pass training, consolidate and you're eligible for consideration. Safer training bet than a CFI.

Next step will be LCC's hiring CFI's. That's going to create a a big dilemma for noobs... take an LCC job now, or go enjoy less pay and QOL at a regional in hopes of quick upgrade and a Legacy job?

Worth mentioning the military is tapped out as far as surging airline candidates... only output there will be the steady state of folks at the 10, 20, 24 and 30 year gates. Everybody mil and ex-mil who was waiting in the wings with the option to do airlines is already doing it, or just not interested.

I agree with everything you said, except I think soon, there will be little or no difference between the LCCs and the Legacies in the minds of pilots. Except for those that just HAVE to fly a wide body, If you want pay and QOL, the LCCs offer everything (and sometimes more, depending on each individual's situation) than the Legacies.

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Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2971640)

Next step will be LCC's hiring CFI's. That's going to create a a big dilemma for noobs... take an LCC job now, or go enjoy less pay and QOL at a regional in hopes of quick upgrade and a Legacy job?

As a soon-to-be CFI, I sure hope you’re right about this. In discussing this subject with a senior UA captain, she speculated even some majors may consider this over the next 10 years. Time will tell.

Assuming there is a glut of FOs approaching 1000 121 and upgrading accordingly won't there be a shortage of FOs in the near future? What then, does that say about cancelling class? And since the pipeline will have dried up haven't they backed themselves into the corner of having the pay even higher bonuses than they already were?

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Originally Posted by LateToTheParty (Post 2978966)

The pilot shortage is going to do wild things to staffing at all levels. These companies are gonna have to figure this stuff out quick.

Why does the pop up banner on this page say “Immediate Class Dates”? Didn’t they just cancel all the classes?