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02-24-2020, 09:21 PM
#41
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Posts: 445
Originally Posted by 123494
What happens to your 145’s? Are they owned by UAL?
UAL flexing some muscle today. I hope it all works out for those affected.
02-25-2020, 12:05 AM
#42
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Joined APC: Aug 2018
Position: Line holder
Posts: 513
Originally Posted by IAFDOF
The unfortunate thing is that the pilots and employees wind up SOL while the scumbags who ran the airline into the ground get off scot free.
Sadly this is what we permit in many industries...see Countrywide, GM, Eastern, WeWork, and a very long list of others. There is no consequence, indeed only a benefit, for failure. This will continue until enough individual voters decide we aren’t going to take it anymore.
My money is on no change, but I’m a jaded boomer. I hope younger folks make a dent in this nonsense.
02-25-2020, 04:46 AM
#43
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Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 663
Originally Posted by FAR121
Didn't TSA have a flow to Frontier or what was the reasoning behind the prohibition on interviews? Good luck to all at TSA, hope you come out skypointer up.
02-25-2020, 05:16 AM
#44
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Joined APC: May 2007
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 338
Sorry guys. The UAL App used to ask if you were furloughed. One of my EGL FOs got hired because he was last class at ComAir. Check it out...
TSA's situation is a product of uncle hulas' treatment of his employees over so very many years. I regret this shut down for those of you left standing when the music stops. On the other hand, seeing hulas' house of cards cave is a little schadenfreude. No consolation for you, I know.
Best of luck. You WILL land on your feet, in a better situation. I've been there, in a much worse economy.
TSA's situation is a product of uncle hulas' treatment of his employees over so very many years. I regret this shut down for those of you left standing when the music stops. On the other hand, seeing hulas' house of cards cave is a little schadenfreude. No consolation for you, I know.
Best of luck. You WILL land on your feet, in a better situation. I've been there, in a much worse economy.
02-25-2020, 06:40 AM
#45
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Joined APC: Feb 2014
Posts: 5
Originally Posted by ToddChavez
Sorry for the lots, but really???? Preferential hiring at a major because of a layoff at a regional is a ridiculous suggestion.
02-25-2020, 06:52 AM
#46
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Posts: 5
Originally Posted by ToddChavez
Sorry for the lots, but really???? Preferential hiring at a major because of a layoff at a regional is a ridiculous suggestion.
21-R Hiring Standards:
“Subject to other legal obligations, the Company shall make reasonable efforts to fill Pilot vacancies with the individuals who satisfy United’s hiring standards, who have previously worked for carriers represented by ALPA, and who are no longer working for those carriers for economic reasons such as lay-offs or the shutdown of that carrier.”
Although this is no Preferential Interview, of I were at TSA, I would fight for the preferential interview using all ALPA resources.
02-25-2020, 06:52 AM
#47
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Joined APC: Oct 2019
Posts: 414
Originally Posted by deftone
The 145s are going to XJT who in turn lost their 175 flying to Skywest.
UAL flexing some muscle today. I hope it all works out for those affected.
UAL flexing some muscle today. I hope it all works out for those affected.
So with TSA shutting down, and the jets going elsewhere, where are these other regionals going to get the pilots to fly these extra aircraft? Also, who stays at TSA until the end? Lots of flying that still needs to be done. This sucks.
02-25-2020, 07:04 AM
#48
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 39,261
Originally Posted by rowemowe
I don't know anyone at TSA but I've been emailing with UAL ALPA to see about getting them Preferential Interviews. A precedence is there. What I've found is that in the United CBA, there is this reference:
21-R Hiring Standards:
“Subject to other legal obligations, the Company shall make reasonable efforts to fill Pilot vacancies with the individuals who satisfy United’s hiring standards, who have previously worked for carriers represented by ALPA, and who are no longer working for those carriers for economic reasons such as lay-offs or the shutdown of that carrier.”
Although this is no Preferential Interview, of I were at TSA, I would fight for the preferential interview using all ALPA resources.
21-R Hiring Standards:
“Subject to other legal obligations, the Company shall make reasonable efforts to fill Pilot vacancies with the individuals who satisfy United’s hiring standards, who have previously worked for carriers represented by ALPA, and who are no longer working for those carriers for economic reasons such as lay-offs or the shutdown of that carrier.”
Although this is no Preferential Interview, of I were at TSA, I would fight for the preferential interview using all ALPA resources.
02-25-2020, 07:06 AM
#49
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Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 39,261
Originally Posted by Texasbound
So with TSA shutting down, and the jets going elsewhere, where are these other regionals going to get the pilots to fly these extra aircraft?
02-25-2020, 07:21 AM
#50
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Posts: 414
Originally Posted by rickair7777
OO has always been able to staff any flying they accept. They will and have turned down flying they cannot staff (unlike some regionals).
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