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Are you upset that a furloughed TSA guy might get a UAL position and a Denver base while you are at Frontier? Is that really what bothers you? It’s called a “union” and we should help each other out when times go bad.
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You’re trying to have a rational conversation with a guy who called Denver PD because he got a letter from another pilot.
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Related to TSA, do you TSA pilots feel like your staffing is at a point that operations are not sustainable?
Is staffing a scape goat or real?
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Staffing is just one side of the coin. The jets weren't flying enough. United will say it's because they weren't staffed properly. But prior to 4-5 weeks ago we were hiring pilots like crazy for an 18 month period. There were classes scheduled through April/May. No one suddenly realized "Oh ****, we're upside down on Captains!" as if it was some secret we were paying bonuses to FOs to get them in the door all that time. What really happened was that flying was shifted away from TSA at the beginning of the year or sometime just prior. So much so that we couldn't pay the lease on the planes. I think we tried to get more flying from United. When they said no I think we tried renegotiating the rate we were getting paid for the flights they did give. When that didn't work we cancelled the Feb and later classes at the end of January. Then sometime around February 10th I think United notified both XJT and TSA that the planes were going to XJT. That's when the January class got canned. Many will say TSA did this to itself and good riddance to such a **** carrier run by hacks. I don't agree with that. I think TSA was essentially pushed off a cliff.
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Staffing is just one side of the coin. The jets weren't flying enough. United will say it's because they weren't staffed properly. But prior to 4-5 weeks ago we were hiring pilots like crazy for an 18 month period. There were classes scheduled through April/May. No one suddenly realized "Oh ****, we're upside down on Captains!" as if it was some secret we were paying bonuses to FOs to get them in the door all that time. What really happened was that flying was shifted away from TSA at the beginning of the year or sometime just prior. So much so that we couldn't pay the lease on the planes. I think we tried to get more flying from United. When they said no I think we tried renegotiating the rate we were getting paid for the flights they did give. When that didn't work we cancelled the Feb and later classes at the end of January. Then sometime around February 10th I think United notified both XJT and TSA that the planes were going to XJT. That's when the January class got canned. Many will say TSA did this to itself and good riddance to such a **** carrier run by hacks. I don't agree with that. I think TSA was essentially pushed off a cliff.
Sure you probably pay for some of the leases on the few company planes but the XR’s are all owned/payed for by United.
The whole thing sounds pretty fishy.
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