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ExperimentalAB 02-15-2008 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by flyinaway411 (Post 321156)
as previously stated, you're a moron. you can talk about earning whatever, but pretty much all you did hear is pass a checkride. a regional is a regional man. you need to get over it. its a place to get time and get out. who cares who gets whose flying. just fly your a$$ off and get out. im so sick of reading your jibberish!

You know that not only did I pass a checkride (which over 65% of the class either never got to take, or busted at least once), but I also spent enough time on the Line to know that it wasn't right for me. I don't care if you're perfectly happy there - I wasn't, and so I found better. I'll put my time in here, as opposed to Trans States, before I "get out," thank you very much!

And when have I ever complained about who was getting what flying? Actually, I thought I was saying how glad I was ya'll were getting more. Some people just can't be happy! Whatever...

btw, calling somebody a "moron" on an Online forum? Very big of you...again. Feel free to add me to your block list ;)

flybywire44 02-15-2008 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB (Post 321011)
Absolutely, but don't try and fool anyone into thinking that all sweatshops were created equal!

If you're someone who is staying at MESA for life then you might have a problem. Heck, even if you're staying at Skywest for life you might have a problem... Get in and out. ;)

Pilotpip 02-15-2008 05:41 PM

Flyinaway,

"It's a place to get in, get time and get out." Tell that to the captains that have been there for YEARS because they can't get out. Let me guess, you're probably a newbie sitting on reserve because there's no way anybody that's been there more than 6 months talks like that.

Three planes. I'm glad I bailed. They already have enough coverage sitting on reserve to man those things. If you're in the bottom 30 or so on the FO seniority list you're going to be sitting in that right seat for quite a while.

Experimental echoed my exact feelings. I'll build my build my time somewhere that people actually LIKE working.

flyinaway411 02-15-2008 07:28 PM

top 30 of fo list, so you refigure out how long ive been here. another person who doesn't know their a$$ from a hole in the ground. again, i dont care who got what planes or how many, it doesnt matter. the only reason i post here is because i get tired of hearing arrogant skywest pilots voice their useless opinions and criticisms about the tsa pilot group or things they think they know about. and plenty of captains can get out, they choose not to because of the (what i think to be not so good) excuse of "i cant take the paycut" or "maybe in a year or so, its hard because i live in stl." that is their personal decision, just as leaving was yours, but plenty can get out. its a regional and its a place to build time quickly, and get the hell out, if you choose to do so. also, the reserve coverage is not what you say it is, trust me. you guys need to get educated or shut up.

ExperimentalAB 02-15-2008 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by flyinaway411 (Post 321294)
top 30 of fo list, so you refigure out how long ive been here. another person who doesn't know their a$$ from a hole in the ground. again, i dont care who got what planes or how many, it doesnt matter. the only reason i post here is because i get tired of hearing arrogant skywest pilots voice their useless opinions and criticisms about the tsa pilot group or things they think they know about. and plenty of captains can get out, they choose not to because of the (what i think to be not so good) excuse of "i cant take the paycut" or "maybe in a year or so, its hard because i live in stl." that is their personal decision, just as leaving was yours, but plenty can get out. its a regional and its a place to build time quickly, and get the hell out, if you choose to do so. also, the reserve coverage is not what you say it is, trust me. you guys need to get educated or shut up.

You're just mad at the world.

flyinaway411 02-15-2008 07:45 PM

well that means nothing to me. i think the "get in and get out" attitude is a pretty healthy one. come to think of it, im actually a pretty happy guy. i just dont like you.

reevesofskyking 02-15-2008 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by flyinaway411 (Post 321305)
well that means nothing to me. i think the "get in and get out" attitude is a pretty healthy one. come to think of it, im actually a pretty happy guy. i just dont like you.

In alot of ways I agree with what you have said, just do not take the time to say it.

As for experimental, I am not mad at the world, and I am mostly content with what I am doing.


To some degree there is some truth to the fact some CA have been year for years, well I guess that is true, why they stay is completly different, I agree there is more to it that they cannot leave, JR CA's leave every month.

I think is fair to ***** about the CO or the Mangement all you want, but also be fair and state why you stay too.

I will be open to say this. I am content, I like how my schedule works for the most part. I am stubborn now, and I want to see the contract through, support that guys that have been from when this contract was signed, I can learn from them. I think TSA is an alright place if you can make through and learn, regardless of how bad the pilot groups dislikes the low time guys, the have always taken care of them, and really none of us there after the furlough got any less of a treatment.

I want to stay and give back to the pilot groups, and above all else, I dont have the time to go anywhere else right at the moment.

I showed you my hand, time see your cards.

so when I complain about something, thats alright, I choose to stay here, and now you know why.

flyinaway411 02-15-2008 08:44 PM

well said reeves. and good for you! we have a good group of pilots here, your just a sample of that. thankfully the weak ones are at other companies dealing with substandard pay proposals with no union backing.

Pilotpip 02-16-2008 10:37 AM

Flyin,

I'm happy you're that high up on the seniority. Had I been that high, I would have stayed too. However, there were quite a few FO's moving back from RIC because of the cuts there, and the movement will stop if the hiring at the major levels slows. 11 hour four days get really old, really fast. Most of the captains I consulted felt that I was doing what they would have done had they known how crappy that company is. Hulas paid $20k or so to give me a few hundred hours and get me to the company I wanted to go to in the first place. I worked as a ramper for two years there, got to see hulas, and all the idiots in scheduling for two years working at an FBO across the field. My education is just fine, thank you.

Had not gotten an offer from RAH, I would have had no problem staying. I probably would have bid reserve so I could fly more. The low lines were that bad.

TSA has a good MEC right now and a very united group of pilots. I hope you guys kick the crap out of Hulas on this next contract, and get a ton of retro pay for working on the old contract for so long. My rat sticker is staying on my bag, and GJ will have to find another way home if I have anything to say about it.

ExperimentalAB 02-16-2008 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by flyinaway411 (Post 321320)
well said reeves. and good for you! we have a good group of pilots here, your just a sample of that. thankfully the weak ones are at other companies dealing with substandard pay proposals with no union backing.

Yes. Reeves is a really good guy, but dude, you are freakin' nuts.


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