Sorry for the bad news. Hope you all are able to find jobs soon. I'm just a student & am hesitant to go into the airlines industry d/t all the furloughs & the horrible pay for new pilots.

Nothing yet on the downgrades. I will be one of the first to know.

Just got the call, downgrade Jan 5th

Everything AMR has is for sale.... didn't you know that? In their own words during a press conference when asked to quote a price for Eagle...
"you can't afford it." But yes, there is a vast difference between being employed at a regional where your paycheck comes from the same bank account as mainline, than when it comes from some regional that happens to have the flying by trying to undercut the next company....

The mainlines will have their regional feed one way or another. We can keep accepting jobs from lowlife scumbags types like (insert name here), and helping him get rich while accelerating the race to the bottom, or you can get some self respect and do what's right in the first place... when the lowlife Companies go away, the owned companies will just grow larger.

It's basically the same arguement Mainlines have been saying about regionals for decades... that we are stealing the flying... and nobody believed them.... I'm sure if you ask a few Midwest pilots, they may be able to explain the long term detramental effects of outsourcing.... be it outsourcing to replace a little plane, or a big plane....

Cool, I like it.

Just got a message from DH (flight manager) today:

Displaced to Dulles January 5.

Furloughed on February 5.

They love to add insult to injury. :mad:

Looks like you need to hurt your back right after Christmas, or get very sick.

Did you actually think you're important to them? We're all just meaningless numbers.

Lucky you, you get to take my place.

*cough*:o*cough*

You never know, you know? :D

Don't worry homie, I requested to take a January 5 furlough because the spring semester starts in January and I don't want to miss it.

I hope you will get an extra month :cool:

Probably not...unfortunately
:(

Wow...another winning personality from Eagle.:rolleyes: I can not begin to express my enthusiasm for my next van ride with one of you types. I have definitely met some decent Eagle guys but it seems like y'all have a disproportionate number of obnoxious d-bags. I don't get the "if you ain't wholly owned, ya ain't schnit" attitude. I really don't. You may be wholly owned but that still just makes you the ultimate B-scale employee. Good for you. For the record I work for one of the worthless undercutting scumbag non-wholly owned operators (XJT).:rolleyes: Get off it dude.

Sorry for the thread drift, just had to vent. With all this talk of TSA furloughing, does that mean the option of combining GoJet and TSA seniority lists (as distasteful as it is) is off the table? I feel for you TSA guys getting furloughed while spineless jet-A "wannabes" are still getting hired at Gojet. Burns me up.

Doubt it. I see TSA becomming the next UFS (united feeder service. The first TSA alter ego. They just disappeared.):mad:

I'm pretty sure the subject was never on the table to begin with. However, I am definitely trying to get the idea out there. I think one list is the best thing for TSA and GoJet right now, especially with Trans Staters getting kicked out the door and GoJetters hiring nubbin's (newbies). One list will give us some power we do not currently have.

Somebody who gets it.

Thats kind of what I was thinking. But I guess by keeping you guys divided management has you right where they want you. At least with one list the furloughs on the TSA side would be absorbed by the hiring on the GoJet side. I'm sure unifying that pilot group will be an uphill battle for the ages but it may be worth looking at. I would really hate to see TSA fade into the sunset while GoJet prospers.

It's my understanding that HoJet was started to circumvent AA (or Eagle's) scope on flying 70 seaters. Since TSA is no longer flying for AA, HoJet has no reason to exist any more, correct?


I have to agree. Even as an (insert name here) pilot, what you're saying makes a lot of sense.






OO.

Dude, mix in a search and don't derail a thread about displacements with this GoJet bs. You have no right to call them HoJet if you have no idea what you are talking about. Read a lot, then call them HoJet all you want.

btw, just got my displacement call today. going to dulles on jan 5th. however, heard that a guy below me on the list isnt getting displaced until the 23rd, so i'm gonna call tomorrow and see if i was given the correct information.

Time for a LOA!...

Dude check your panties...


Really? Thanks. HoJet.







OO.

Dude, regardless of any scope clause with anyone, Trans States Holdings could have created GoJet and put them on our seniority list.

That way, we would have the ability to move to the 70-seaters without violating the Eagle scope. But I'm sure if that's how it happened, Eagle guys would be p!ssed like none other and would be calling all of us "psuedo-scabs" for circumventing their scope clause.

I don't really care though because the -700's are all operated for United anyways, so it's not like they would be competing with American Beagle Boys. :D

most of us are very versed in how GoJet was created and how it operates. Let it go in this thread. There are people losing their jobs and getting displaced. We don't need a reminder that GoJet is prospering.

agreed.....

I second that agreement

Me third. ;)

me too. Fourth that

I wonder how many of us TSA guys are going to just flat out resign when Jan 5th comes around. I'm seriously considering on giving them my letter in late December, say 23rd or 24th :).

Hell, everyone that is getting furloughed should just resign right before christmas.

IF your company is like most, you can submitt a resignation letter and still be able to recind it right up until the day before it's effective....

How cool would it be for 3/4 of an airline's pilots to all submitt resignation letters citing poor pay, poor work rules, and management apathy?

I for one am out of here come Dec 20th. Its been a fun ride, met a bunch of great folks, and learned SO VERY much about flying and what it is like to fly professionally.

I'd rather spend Christmas with my family. Already lined up a flight instructor job part time while I go back to school. Life looks a hell of a lot brighter.

Trans States is not like most companies. Once you hand in a letter there you are done.