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Old 11-06-2008, 12:02 PM
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I hate to be the bringer of bad news but things are looking like they are coming to an end at TSA. I just got back from a meeting and it is now known that Gojet is adding CRJ-200s to their fleet. Apparently, most of the them are coming from the desert. According to a highly placed source, they are going to be staffed by current Gojet pilots and through jets for jobs possibly furloughed United and Continental pilots.

The contract that the TSA pilots have been working under became effective August 1, 2000. The contract was extended another two years to 2006 (much controversy surrounds the extension). In 2006, negotiations started again and in over 24 months of negotiations, a little more than half of the sections of the contract have been TA-ed with no end in sight. According to my source, TSA management will be able to get the CRJ-200 program spooled up long before the Obama takes the White House and can make his appointments (early summer was their most optimistic estimate) and we get released for self help. There are a number of Flight Safety instructors that have been put on notice to start training and Trans States Holdings is down in Florida recruiting at Embry Riddle (I kid you not) but hopefully the people that they are trying to recruit have some self respect and did their research.

In other words, TSA pilots and other employees are screwed...


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Old 11-06-2008, 12:08 PM
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THat is really out there!! TSA has 50 seaters and they (GJ) are going to get there own 50 seaters!! Is GJ going to be flying for another airline other than United?
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I don't understand why those airplanes aren't under the TSA certificate, last I checked CRJ2s were 50 seaters. Doesn't make sense legally.
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According to a highly placed source, they are going to be staffed by current Gojet pilots and through jets for jobs possibly furloughed United and Continental pilots.
Hopefully:
1) source is wrong
2) CO ALPA (Prater's kids) and UA ALPA have enough stones to not allow their ALPA furloughed pilots to go to a shop that exists only to undermine another ALPA carrier. No much hope, though, since US Airways was sending furloughed guys to Freedom Airlines in late 2002, and US ALPA didn't speak up about it.

Waiting for the press release.
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We think that we are going to be replaced.



Tomorrow, the MEC is going to have an emergency meeting. They are trying to get Praeter and National involved so they can throw some support our way. I will be getting details tomorrow.
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The sole purpose of GJ was to fly 50+ seaters. Unless they are planning on merging TSA with GJ, TSA should be getting 50 seaters. Either way I somehow doubt ALPA is going to let GJ fly what should be our airplanes.
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Either way I somehow doubt ALPA is going to let GJ fly what should be our airplanes.
I wouldn't count on it.
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What is contractually legal and what is actually going to happen are usually two different things.
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I don't see how TSA can just hand over our flying to GJ. That flying was awarded to TSA. In UAL eyes, we are two seperate companies.
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This disgusts me, as it should all pilots in the pay to play bologna regional world.

As TSA furloughs up to 200 pilots, GOJETS hires. Unreal folks.


Another reason why Teamsters is not a good pilot union... they approve of and take from ALPA as well as take in alter-ego pilots like gojets.

ALPA national if you aren't all over this yesterday then there is going to be some turbulence ahead.

Waterskiers, we've got your back. Let everyone know what we can do to help.
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