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Old 05-29-2009, 01:55 PM
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The planes we've been getting back from TSA have been HORRENDOUS maintenance-wise. I wouldn't allow any of my loved ones on TSA due to their slipshod maintenance. This is not a shot at their pilots, for they are victims as well and I feel for them having to risk their lives every day on these aircraft.

In the interest of the safety of the flying public, TSA should be grounded until they can prove their maintenance is at an acceptable level and then they should remain under EXTREME scrutiny for an extended period of time. This may be the next accident to give the regional industry a black eye, only now it would involve bad maintenance, but still drag down the FAA's lack of oversight the way Buffalo did.
I saw a cockpit full of orange stickers, but what are you seeing that seems to indicate lives are being put in danger. PM me if you want to stay private.
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Old 05-29-2009, 02:39 PM
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Gojet too, but that's a different company

(with the same mechanics turning the wrenches and whipping the pencils)
If it's got a white or black nose cone it's Hulas operated.
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Old 05-29-2009, 03:25 PM
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I saw a cockpit full of orange stickers, but what are you seeing that seems to indicate lives are being put in danger. PM me if you want to stay private.
We all have our own opinions and that was mine. The TSA planes returned to Eagle have apparently been so bad, the feds were notified. From what I've heard, I wouldn't put my dog on TSA, if I had one.

Feel free to make your own decisions, but I'll pass.
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We all have our own opinions and that was mine. The TSA planes returned to Eagle have apparently been so bad, the feds were notified. From what I've heard, I wouldn't put my dog on TSA, if I had one.

Feel free to make your own decisions, but I'll pass.
Hey Chief...sometimes its better to keep your opinion to yourself. Saying you wouldn't put your dog on a TSA airplane is pretty offensive to us pilots, whether you meant it or not, especially with so much hearsay. Maybe you belong as an "aviation expert" for the media, i think you'd fit right in. Our Mx might suck, but we pilots will not take a plane that is unsafe for flight. So dont worry about your dog.
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Old 05-29-2009, 05:35 PM
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What he said.
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Old 05-29-2009, 06:03 PM
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This is not a shot at their pilots, for they are victims as well and I feel for them having to risk their lives every day on these aircraft.
Actually, it is a very big shot below the belt at our pilots. It is absolutely asinine to assume that because MX is what it is at TSA, that our pilots would choose to fly an unairworthy aircraft.

Also, we don't want your high and mighty sympathy. Don't gimme that "I feel for you" bull, thinking we're putting our lives at risk anymore than you are in your 145. To tell us that means that you don't respect our decision making skills and insinuates that we are weak minded pilots willing to fly anything that MX tells us to.

I "feel" for you that someday you may get knocked off your pedestal.
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Old 05-29-2009, 07:19 PM
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to the eagle person-- are you freaking serious? our planes are so bad? i hate to stoop to your level, but how many fatalities has eagle had based on either MX or pilots- now run that figure for TSA-- Do you wish to rebut? didnt think so.


why must people say that they or their airline is better than any other airline ( unless it's gojet) we all work for crappy airlines thats like slaves saying "my massir is better than yo massir" your still slaves you freaking morons!

SKIPPY-- get a life
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Old 05-29-2009, 08:20 PM
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Only reason why I wouldn't want my dog on TSA is because he'd be delayed or cancelled due to maintenance, not because I'd be afraid he'd die.

He may be dehydrated as well due to the fact that we have no APU's in the summertime.

BTW, according to our training department, the 10 jets we got from Eagle weren't in that great of shape as when we got them either.
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Old 05-29-2009, 08:25 PM
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BTW, according to our training department, the 10 jets we got from Eagle weren't in that great of shape as when we got them either.
I agree with that. The only TSA airplane that I had questions about it's safety was one of the Eagle planes.
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Originally Posted by 250 or point 65 View Post
Actually, it is a very big shot below the belt at our pilots. It is absolutely asinine to assume that because MX is what it is at TSA, that our pilots would choose to fly an unairworthy aircraft.

Also, we don't want your high and mighty sympathy. Don't gimme that "I feel for you" bull, thinking we're putting our lives at risk anymore than you are in your 145. To tell us that means that you don't respect our decision making skills and insinuates that we are weak minded pilots willing to fly anything that MX tells us to.

I "feel" for you that someday you may get knocked off your pedestal.
Of course you wouldn't "choose" to fly an unsafe aircraft. I understand your emotion, but TSA pilots aren't the problem. The problems Eagle has found were beyond your (pilots) notice. Many aircraft have required serious work to make them airworthy. I'm sorry you are offended, but my position still stands.

A lot of things can be seriously wrong with aircraft that pilots are unaware of. It has apparently taken another set of eyes and the aircraft taken apart to find these issues. Because of this (things PILOTS cannot see), I would not fly on TSA and forbid my loved ones from doing so.

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