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IC ALL 05-30-2009 08:02 PM

"Ugh, don't feed the trolls."

Mod note:

This may be a good time to remind users about the ignore user feature. Click on the users screen name. Click on public profile. Click on ignore user.

Have a nice day....

eaglefly 05-31-2009 04:05 AM


Originally Posted by Hayduke (Post 619756)
You clearly haven't been in the industry long enough to understand just how unwaveringly reliable the rumors you hear from mechanics are. You obviously don't know specifics, but that's OK because mx guys are always 100% truthful and never exaggerate or spread untrue crap.

Eagle's maintenance is not the best in the industry, btw.

You're right. I've only been here a couple of decades............silly me. Hopefully any rumors they're spreading aren't the same ones the feds are investigating.

250 or point 65 05-31-2009 10:49 AM

eaglefly,

Could you please explain to us the would-be fatal errors that our MX made on the Eagle planes? This is very important because if they made them on those, they are still making the same mistakes on the 145's we still have.

So once again: What specifically did our MX do/not do that put our lives in danger?

Positive_Rate 05-31-2009 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 619558)
.The problems Eagle has found were beyond your (pilots) notice. Many aircraft have required serious work to make them airworthy.

Please elaborate. What kind of issues were they finding? So they weren't airworthy when they were ferried back to Eagle?

eaglefly 05-31-2009 03:25 PM

I'm not going to claim any specifics for several reasons (attack that at your option, I'm O.K. with that). My point was that I (me) and my loved ones will not fly on those carriers for reasons stated above. We all have choices and that is mine. Some pilots may not choose to fly Mesa for other reasons, etc. and that is their right. Perhaps Eagle and TSA have different ideas of "airworthy" ?

I'm surprised anyone wants to know specifics as I have already been disregarded as a "troll". So again, what's the point as my comments are not to be taken as fact, only opinion.

Relax and fly on with confidence. After all, if there are REALLY any problems with your aircraft that would jeopardize your safety, the FAA will be there to put a stop to it. Since they haven't, you're good to go and why get worked up over an erronously opinionated troll ?

be76flyer 05-31-2009 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by 250 or point 65 (Post 620038)
eaglefly,

Could you please explain to us the would-be fatal errors that our MX made on the Eagle planes? This is very important because if they made them on those, they are still making the same mistakes on the 145's we still have.

So once again: What specifically did our MX do/not do that put our lives in danger?

Things I have seen in ABI with the TSA planes: not TSO parts, incorrect repairs, rigged sensors.

250 or point 65 05-31-2009 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by be76flyer (Post 620176)
Things I have seen in ABI with the TSA planes: not TSO parts, incorrect repairs, rigged sensors.

Anything that in your opinion would lead to imminent death? By all means, tell us which parts, which sensors. If this is so important, be ethical and tell us what is wrong so we can do something about it. Our MEC has set up a regular meeting with MX and mgmt to voice our concerns and this would be the perfect information to bring up at one of these meetings. Don't you think?


Also, eaglefly, I never called you a troll, someone else did. However, it's rather unethical to tell a pilot group that they are flying ticking timebombs and not tell us what is specifically wrong. Furthermore, it's pretty unethical to supposedly have information that would cause such a strong opinion and not go to the FAA about it.

be76flyer 05-31-2009 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by 250 or point 65 (Post 620195)
Anything that in your opinion would lead to imminent death?

Imminent death NO, but I do think they could be a link in a accident chain.



Originally Posted by 250 or point 65 (Post 620195)
Furthermore, it's pretty unethical to supposedly have information that would cause such a strong opinion and not go to the FAA about it.

I wasn't there but the MX guys said the FAA was there for all the work done on 601 and 602.

ehe2 05-31-2009 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by be76flyer (Post 620212)
I wasn't there but the MX guys said the FAA was there for all the work done on 601 and 602.

For all the skiiers,
If I am right, 601=813 and 602=814. We all know what happened to 814.

bryris 05-31-2009 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 620164)
I'm not to claim any specifics for several reasons (attack that at your option, I'm O.K. with that). My point was that I (me) and my loved ones will not fly on those carriers for reasons stated above. We all have choices and that is mine. Some pilots may not choose to fly Mesa for other reasons, etc. and that is their right. Perhaps Eagle and TSA have different ideas of "airworthy" ?

I'm surprised anyone wants to know specifics as I have already been disregarded as a "troll". So again, what's the point as my comments are not to be taken as fact, only opinion.

Relax and fly on with confidence. After all, if there are REALLY any problems with your aircraft that would jeopardize your safety, the FAA will be there to put a stop to it. Since they haven't, you're good to go and why get worked up over an erronously opinionated troll ?

I'll translate:

"I don't actually know of anything just feel that TSA is below me and my regional and will throw this statement out there with NO substantial information to support it just to perpetuate conflict"

Reality: If you actually knew of something that was seriously wrong mechanically with those airplanes, you as a professional would report it to the FAA, anonymously if needed. I don't know you, but as a fellow professional, I am going to make that assumption of you.


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