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Originally Posted by yb23
(Post 835150)
Does the Compass flow cease when they're sold similar to Mesaba's?
Originally Posted by SkyHighHobo
(Post 835156)
No, its just re-directed to TSA! :D
A. General. 1. This Letter of Agreement governs employment opportunities at the company and at the Feeder Carrier Affiliate for all NWA pilots with a system seniority number together with future pilots employed by the Company and pilots employed by the Feeder Carrier Affiliate. In the event of a sale of Feeder Carrier Affiliate such that it is no longer an affiliate of NWA, the flow up rights of Feeder Carrier Affiliate new hire pilots (Sections D and H below) can be terminated by the Feeder Carrier without impacting the Company’s upper cap in Section 1.B.7.c. |
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Originally Posted by mking84
(Post 835147)
Well just when you thought things could not get ANY worse they do. I am still waiting for my facebook page to light up with comments like "we bought compass we rock" just like it did when hulas ordered the MRJs. I guess we know where those are going now.
I am going to sign off and go stick my head in the oven. |
Originally Posted by Check Essential
(Post 835164)
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, the undersigned parties do hereby agree as follows:
A. General. 1. This Letter of Agreement governs employment opportunities at the company and at the Feeder Carrier Affiliate for all NWA pilots with a system seniority number together with future pilots employed by the Company and pilots employed by the Feeder Carrier Affiliate. In the event of a sale of Feeder Carrier Affiliate such that it is no longer an affiliate of NWA, the flow up rights of Feeder Carrier Affiliate new hire pilots (Sections D and H below) can be terminated by the Feeder Carrier without impacting the Company’s upper cap in Section 1.B.7.c. Can you also post Section D and H? |
So let me get this straight. TSA can't afford to give the pilots a new contract because they're not making much money anymore. The NMB allows them to stall contract negotiations for pretty much forever. Hulas threatens to shut down TSA is we strike. Hulas spends $20 million to buy Compass.
Two things seem clear to me. 1) Hulas CAN afford to pay us more 2) Now if we strike, he probably will shut TSA down because he has cash coming in from Compass and can afford the hit he'd take on TSA. I'm beyond angry at this RLA/NMB nonsense. If TSA isn't given an immediate proffer after this news, I'm gonna lose my mind. |
Originally Posted by bohicagain
(Post 835185)
To me that means that the flow up rights to the new hire pilots that are hired after the sale can be terminated
Can you also post Section D and H? Sections D and H are not really relevant to whether the flow continues. They specify a Compass pilot's rights if he elects not to flow and the terms and conditions of his employment and initial training if he does flow. I think your interpretation is correct. The flow can now be terminated by Compass management. I expect they will do so. It costs them training money so why would they continue? |
Originally Posted by Copperhed51
(Post 835192)
So let me get this straight. TSA can't afford to give the pilots a new contract because they're not making much money anymore. The NMB allows them to stall contract negotiations for pretty much forever. Hulas threatens to shut down TSA is we strike. Hulas spends $20 million to buy Compass.
Two things seem clear to me. 1) Hulas CAN afford to pay us more 2) Now if we strike, he probably will shut TSA down because he has cash coming in from Compass and can afford the hit he'd take on TSA. I'm beyond angry at this RLA/NMB nonsense. If TSA isn't given an immediate proffer after this news, I'm gonna lose my mind. |
Originally Posted by Check Essential
(Post 835199)
I think your interpretation is correct. The flow can now be terminated by Compass management. I expect they will do so. It costs them training money so why would they continue?
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
(Post 835205)
that would be pretty short sighted. the money it cost to train is outweighed by the ability to keep your most senir captain at 3rd year pay.
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Oh yea, our flow might remain intact........riiiiiight! It's just another day for you and me in paradise.
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What the?
...soo Hulas has the money to buy Compass, sign on the dotted line for new planes, and pay off the FAA for fines but not enough to sign a pilot contract. C'mon brah. |
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