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Old 03-15-2017, 10:27 AM
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That is exactly right. Because the TRUE definition of "scab" is EXACTLY what the righteous APA/ALPA pilots did to US Airways and TWA pilots.

My agenda is against the discriminatory BEHAVIOR of labor unions against their minorities. The APA stripped me and many other of my seniority if FAVOR OF THEIR MAJORITY. While the physical actions and racial overtones of Jim Crow were certainly much WORSE than that of our cause, the practice by APA and ALPA are of the same discriminatory ilk. And to that I say if your one of them, and you support that action, them you are what the union defines as a "SCAB". PURE AND SIMPLE.

Clueless? Ive been "involved" in union activity for over thirty years in this industry to know more than you!
It all makes sense now. Someone who "got screwed in the merger" wants his sweet revenge. Revenge being turning us all into "at will" employees.
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Old 03-15-2017, 10:52 AM
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It may not be acceptable to you, but of those labels it's the most accurate.
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Old 03-15-2017, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano View Post
It all makes sense now. Someone who "got screwed in the merger" wants his sweet revenge. Revenge being turning us all into "at will" employees.
It is what it is. I know unions don't represent me, they don't represent the American worker (anymore) and the only way to hold their feet to the fire is make them work for the dues money. The APA has done more to damage and screw up the contract we have then I could EVER have done.

When did the "light bulb" turn on for you or have you always been this naive?
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Originally Posted by Route66 View Post
It is what it is. I know unions don't represent me, they don't represent the American worker (anymore) and the only way to hold their feet to the fire is make them work for the dues money. The APA has done more to damage and screw up the contract we have then I could EVER have done.

When did the "light bulb" turn on for you or have you always been this naive?
The guy advocating a national seniority list calling someone else naive: priceless. At least you admitted your animosity towards collective bargaining.

I've asked this question already: can you give us an example of a pilot group voting out a union with no replacement? The history of the industry is replete with examples in the other direction. Does this turn on any "light bulbs" for you?

What do you think of the correlation between the decline of unions and the decline of the middle class in the US? Simple coincidence?
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It may not be acceptable to you, but of those labels it's the most accurate.
Labels. How Jonathan Gruberesque.

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Old 03-15-2017, 11:19 AM
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Labels. How Jonathan Gruberesque.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Adrdmmh7bMo
Just like Trumpers love to use the term liberal (in a derogatory way), libtard, libturd, snowflake etc. Next time try to make a point that isn't so easily countered.
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Old 03-15-2017, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano View Post
What do you think of the correlation between the decline of unions and the decline of the middle class in the US? Simple coincidence?
Not to steer too far off topic, but do you really think that the middle class is declining? What is middle class, anyway? - CNNMoney

And if the middle class is shrinking, do you think that the lower class and/or upper class is growing?

If you think that the upper class is growing while the lower class is static or shrinking, is this an issue?

This article breaks the middle class into upper middle, middle, and lower middle. Note that both lower middle and middle have shrunk while upper middle class grew more than the previous two shrunk. America's upper middle class is thriving - Jun. 21, 2016

I haven't dug through the data, but I suspect that one will find that the upper and upper middle class have grown over the years while the middle, lower middle, and lower classes have declined. I consider that to be a good thing.
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Andy: Median income has been declining since the early 1970's. I'll have to read more of your article later.
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Just like Trumpers love to use the term liberal (in a derogatory way), libtard, libturd, snowflake etc. Next time try to make a point that isn't so easily countered.
LOL! Are there any points that can't be easily countered? You and I may not agree on those points, but it's easy to counter just about any political argument.
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano View Post
Andy: Median income has been declining since the early 1970's. I'll have to read more of your article later.
According to FRED (Fed Reserve St Louis), median income (adjusted for inflation) took a big hit 2008-2012, but has since recovered and is just a hair below the late 1990s. It's definitely higher than 1984 when they started compiling the data.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEHOINUSA672N
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