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Well I see my thread about the National Right To Work Act was deleted. I figured that was a possibility. And that's OK. Because what it proves is that differing points of view are NOT tolerated. I put no profanity in them. I kept it civil. On purpose.
What it PROVES is that disfunctionality is even on the forum here. Only union pilots are allowed to participate. And again, that's OK. And here is why: because the ignorance of the discriminatory practices of union functions will only hasten their demise.
If unions are to survive, the ONLY way they will is if they are willing to accept accessment from outside and revise their business model. That will be when pigs fly, because the money is where their power is. Managing principles is where the power is. NOT THE MONEY.
Most of you don't like my accessments about unions and so be it. But sticking your heads in the sand is a typical union reality in the 21st Century. Just like it was since David Benekhe was starting ALPA.
I truly hope the professional pilots in America are ready for it.
What it PROVES is that disfunctionality is even on the forum here. Only union pilots are allowed to participate. And again, that's OK. And here is why: because the ignorance of the discriminatory practices of union functions will only hasten their demise.
If unions are to survive, the ONLY way they will is if they are willing to accept accessment from outside and revise their business model. That will be when pigs fly, because the money is where their power is. Managing principles is where the power is. NOT THE MONEY.
Most of you don't like my accessments about unions and so be it. But sticking your heads in the sand is a typical union reality in the 21st Century. Just like it was since David Benekhe was starting ALPA.
I truly hope the professional pilots in America are ready for it.
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I could be wrong, but based on what little I read of your prior thread, I would imagine that there is a fairly good chance that your thread was closed because by about post #3 someone had turned it into a political "the left are babies / the right are idiots" shouting match.
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I could be wrong, but based on what little I read of your prior thread, I would imagine that there is a fairly good chance that your thread was closed because by about post #3 someone had turned it into a political "the left are babies / the right are idiots" shouting match.
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I could be wrong, but based on what little I read of your prior thread, I would imagine that there is a fairly good chance that your thread was closed because by about post #3 someone had turned it into a political "the left are babies / the right are idiots" shouting match.
Post it again Route66.
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the ignorance of the discriminatory practices of union functions will only hasten their demise.
If unions are to survive, the ONLY way they will is if they are willing to accept accessment from outside and revise their business model. That will be when pigs fly, because the money is where their power is. Managing principles is where the power is. NOT THE MONEY.
Most of you don't like my accessments about unions and so be it. But sticking your heads in the sand is a typical union reality in the 21st Century. Just like it was since David Benekhe was starting ALPA.
I truly hope the professional pilots in America are ready for it.
If unions are to survive, the ONLY way they will is if they are willing to accept accessment from outside and revise their business model. That will be when pigs fly, because the money is where their power is. Managing principles is where the power is. NOT THE MONEY.
Most of you don't like my accessments about unions and so be it. But sticking your heads in the sand is a typical union reality in the 21st Century. Just like it was since David Benekhe was starting ALPA.
I truly hope the professional pilots in America are ready for it.
I don't often agree with your "tactics" (and I'm not trying to be derogatory) in the AA section even if I might actually think many of your arguments are valid, but I wish I had read the other thread before it was closed. I don't know why the thread was removed, but I couldn't agree more with the statement above.
"Let us reason together." - said someone much smarter than Cheddar
Edited for lack of coffee!
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I don't often agree with your "tactics" (and I'm not trying to be derogatory) in the AA section even if I might actually think many of your arguments are valid, but I wish I had read the other thread before it was closed. I don't know why the thread was removed, but I couldn't agree more with the statement above.
"Let us reason together." - said someone much smarter than Cheddar
Edited for lack of coffee!
"Let us reason together." - said someone much smarter than Cheddar
Edited for lack of coffee!
It was simply about the National Right to Work Act which eliminates the mandatory dues payments by non-members, of which I am one. Its not that I am necessarily against unions, but I KNOW you can't change it UNLESS you, the individual, can withhold YOUR hard earned money from an entity that fails to perform in a fashion that advocates the interests as a whole with fundamental principles.
I am anti-union, anti-ALPA, anti-APA because APA motto "through these doors walks the worlds finest pilots" is only for LAA pilots. Their LOS and even those of the LAWA pilots have used their system to advance their small groups interests and not those of the whole.
My belief only (maybe) and my right. But I KNOW the power to the APA and ALPA is growing weaker by the day, the NRTW Act will soon be passed and the wasted dollars going to Carey, Wilson, Bates, etc. will come to an end.
Only THEN can a new way of real thinking come about. The corpus must die before the Phoenix can rise again. Dick Lyons, whom most of you do NOT even know, would approve. Look him up.
Again, let us reason together.
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You see wrong, as usual. It wasn't deleted, it was closed. It's here:
And so its begun.....
Maybe it was locked because you intended it to be "a doozie." Maybe it was locked because you started throwing around the scab label. Maybe it was closed because you, for whatever reason, seem to have a hard time lately engaging in civil conversation.
Maybe you could find a different outlet or solution for your anger issues.
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And so its begun.....
Maybe it was locked because you intended it to be "a doozie." Maybe it was locked because you started throwing around the scab label. Maybe it was closed because you, for whatever reason, seem to have a hard time lately engaging in civil conversation.
Maybe you could find a different outlet or solution for your anger issues.
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You see wrong, as usual. It wasn't deleted, it was closed. It's here:
And so its begun.....
Maybe it was locked because you intended it to be "a doozie." Maybe it was locked because you started throwing around the scab label. Maybe it was closed because you, for whatever reason, seem to have a hard time lately engaging in civil conversation.
Maybe you could find a different outlet or solution for your anger issues.
.
And so its begun.....
Maybe it was locked because you intended it to be "a doozie." Maybe it was locked because you started throwing around the scab label. Maybe it was closed because you, for whatever reason, seem to have a hard time lately engaging in civil conversation.
Maybe you could find a different outlet or solution for your anger issues.
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That is a very thoughtful gesture that I totally agree with. I like that. Let us reason together.
It was simply about the National Right to Work Act which eliminates the mandatory dues payments by non-members, of which I am one. Its not that I am necessarily against unions, but I KNOW you can't change it UNLESS you, the individual, can withhold YOUR hard earned money from an entity that fails to perform in a fashion that advocates the interests as a whole with fundamental principles.
I am anti-union, anti-ALPA, anti-APA because APA motto "through these doors walks the worlds finest pilots" is only for LAA pilots. Their LOS and even those of the LAWA pilots have used their system to advance their small groups interests and not those of the whole.
My belief only (maybe) and my right. But I KNOW the power to the APA and ALPA is growing weaker by the day, the NRTW Act will soon be passed and the wasted dollars going to Carey, Wilson, Bates, etc. will come to an end.
Only THEN can a new way of real thinking come about. The corpus must die before the Phoenix can rise again. Dick Lyons, whom most of you do NOT even know, would approve. Look him up.
Again, let us reason together.
It was simply about the National Right to Work Act which eliminates the mandatory dues payments by non-members, of which I am one. Its not that I am necessarily against unions, but I KNOW you can't change it UNLESS you, the individual, can withhold YOUR hard earned money from an entity that fails to perform in a fashion that advocates the interests as a whole with fundamental principles.
I am anti-union, anti-ALPA, anti-APA because APA motto "through these doors walks the worlds finest pilots" is only for LAA pilots. Their LOS and even those of the LAWA pilots have used their system to advance their small groups interests and not those of the whole.
My belief only (maybe) and my right. But I KNOW the power to the APA and ALPA is growing weaker by the day, the NRTW Act will soon be passed and the wasted dollars going to Carey, Wilson, Bates, etc. will come to an end.
Only THEN can a new way of real thinking come about. The corpus must die before the Phoenix can rise again. Dick Lyons, whom most of you do NOT even know, would approve. Look him up.
Again, let us reason together.
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