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Old 06-30-2018, 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer

It happens with almost every other profession. Look at the military for example.
Dude, you don’t know anything about the military if you think the above statement is true.

If you really can’t see that a corporation would stomp your QOL for cost reduction then you are either one of two things, niave or a company stooge.
The companies are doing what they are suppose to and I have no problem with that.

You also have failed to answer direct questions about union vs non union pilot groups and thus your troll powers are vanquished

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Old 06-30-2018, 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by av8or View Post
https://bizjetjobs.com/pilot-salary-survey-captain-usa/

The average CAPTAIN pay for flying a Phenom 300 in the private/non union sector is $74k. The high side for a Penom 300 Captain is $89k. Prob varying degrees of bennies and work rules.

At NetJets, which is a union pilot group, 1st year pay, as a First Officer flying a Phenom 300 is $70-$80k, depending on your CHOSEN schedule. Second year, $85-90k. Tack on about a $20k/yr benefits package that includes 100% company paid health insurance and first year total compensation, as a FIRST OFFICER is $90-100k. A Phenom 300 CAPTAIN at NetJets is paid, depending on schedule around $200k a year... plus benefits.

Find me a non-union Captain flying a Phenom 300, or a Citation Encore, or Excel, or Citation 10, or Hawker, or Latitude, making $200k a year with company paid insurance, and I’ll kiss your ass.

There are 10,000 member companies in the NBAA. There’s one NetJets. 10 thousand companies, all competing against each other for pilots to find that ONE non-union pilot that has the pay and benefits that match a NetJets pilot.

Good luck with that. 😎
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Old 06-30-2018, 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by deadseal View Post
Dude, you don’t know anything about the military if you think the above statement is true.

If you really can’t see that a corporation would stomp your QOL for cost reduction then you are either one of two things, niave or a company stooge.
The companies are doing what they are suppose to and I have no problem with that.

You also have failed to answer direct questions about union vs non union pilot groups and thus your troll powers are vanquished
Believe it or not he’s not a troll. He actually believes what he writes.

Remember, taxes should be voluntary and fire departments for-profit.

Just wait until someone asks him about cabotage.
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Old 06-30-2018, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by deadseal View Post
If you really can’t see that a corporation would stomp your QOL for cost reduction then you are either one of two things, niave or a company stooge.
Again, it depends on which company.

The upper tier companies probably would not. The lower tier companies probably would. There would be competition.
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer View Post
Again, it depends on which company.
Not in a mature capital-intensive industry like the airlines. Price, and therefore, cost is king. Your assertions are pure fantasy.
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Old 06-30-2018, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano View Post
Believe it or not he’s not a troll. He actually believes what he writes.

Remember, taxes should be voluntary and fire departments for-profit.

Just wait until someone asks him about cabotage.
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Old 06-30-2018, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by av8or View Post
Agree 100%
"No Marvin, that's mine, you can't have any!" (Eric Cartman, CEOs, and most pilots). It's okay for my lofty paycheck to come from borrowed money but not yours! LOL Just about every person, family, business, and government is a going concern that's levered over their heads.
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Originally Posted by Flytolive View Post
Not in a mature capital-intensive industry like the airlines. Price, and therefore, cost is king. Your assertions are pure fantasy.
You fail to understand a supply/demand for pilots.
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano View Post
With Kennedy retiring it's headed to the private sector next.

Yay! Lower wages and worse working conditions. 'Cause Freedom!!!
Good. Hope we dump abortion with it.
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Originally Posted by Slaphappy View Post
Good. Hope we dump abortion with it.
Yay for lower wages and worse working conditions?

You’re not very good at trolling.
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