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I laid out several examples. You laid out the fact that regional pilot pay has increased due to market forces -- of course it has. Collective bargaining can only go so far.
But examined over a wide array, it's obvious that pilots that bargain collectively will make more than their peers in similar aircraft/business models. Well, obvious to most.
But examined over a wide array, it's obvious that pilots that bargain collectively will make more than their peers in similar aircraft/business models. Well, obvious to most.
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I laid out several examples. You laid out the fact that regional pilot pay has increased due to market forces -- of course it has. Collective bargaining can only go so far.
But examined over a wide array, it's obvious that pilots that bargain collectively will make more than their peers in similar aircraft/business models. Well, obvious to most.
But examined over a wide array, it's obvious that pilots that bargain collectively will make more than their peers in similar aircraft/business models. Well, obvious to most.
For those who have more nuance, thanks for the defense of trade unions.
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Googles.....once ones world view morphs into an ideology they are impervious to facts and reason....trying to modify someones alternate reality once they go down that rabbit hole is basically impossible.
For those who have more nuance, thanks for the defense of trade unions.
For those who have more nuance, thanks for the defense of trade unions.
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I am a non-member. Every month I calculate my association fee and happily send the check. My EXCO and, when applicable, my Negotiating Committee speak for me and I have no issue with paying my fair share to ensure they continue to do so. You can and should carry your own water.
The fee is about 7% less than full membership dues. That 7% is money that does not go to support the International, which absolutely DOES NOT speak for me.
You should not, either voluntarily or through coercion, support positions with which you disagree. Yes, it is a First Amendment thing.
The fee is about 7% less than full membership dues. That 7% is money that does not go to support the International, which absolutely DOES NOT speak for me.
You should not, either voluntarily or through coercion, support positions with which you disagree. Yes, it is a First Amendment thing.
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SkyWest is by far the best example. They are a non-union pilot group. They do better than almost every ALPA pilot group in the regional category. The only ones doing better from what I see are Endeavor (ALPA) and Republic which is IBT. Many ALPA pilots at regional carriers are making upwards of 20% less than SkyWest pilots.
It can be done and without all the contention, politics, union corruption and Loss of 2% of your pay to a union that spends the money of its members on things pilots don't always support.
It can be done and without all the contention, politics, union corruption and Loss of 2% of your pay to a union that spends the money of its members on things pilots don't always support.
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