Originally Posted by airb320
(Post 2713929)
51 is more than 49... right? Unless in your “cloudy” World math doesn’t make sense, which wouldn’t surprise me
You said... With these massive increases in salaries ALPA is raking it in and I can’t stand for a Union where, most Pilots I talk to, are conservative and this Union is giving freely to Democrats... again WTF The irony is incredible. Many of the high paid ALPA employees are union represented, as their pay is negotiated as part of a CBA. Would you rather the people representing our Union to not be a part of a union? You don’t want their union to be able to negotiate a fair wage for their work? You see the irony of that, being that we are no different when asking for the same with our management counterparts? As for your random 1.2% max union rate and bonuses not subject to dues, since you pulled that from nowhere, it’s not worth discussing. Remember it was your republican representation that axed the union dues tax write off. |
Originally Posted by Ducttape
(Post 2719529)
Your dues don’t go to the PAC, so your “point” is specious.
You said... With these massive increases in salaries ALPA is raking it in and I can’t stand for a Union where, most Pilots I talk to, are conservative and this Union is giving freely to Democrats... again WTF The irony is incredible. Many of the high paid ALPA employees are union represented, as their pay is negotiated as part of a CBA. Would you rather the people representing our Union to not be a part of a union? You don’t want their union to be able to negotiate a fair wage for their work? You see the irony of that, being that we are no different when asking for the same with our management counterparts? As for your random 1.2% max union rate and bonuses not subject to dues, since you pulled that from nowhere, it’s not worth discussing. Remember it was your republican representation that axed the union dues tax write off. |
Originally Posted by frozenboxhauler
(Post 2710291)
Actually ALPA PAC gave 51% to Democrats and 49% to Republicans last year,...but why let facts get in the way of a good story. ;)
fbh I don't like union money, be it dues, or voluntary contributions going to individuals or their campaigns. don't care what party it is. |
Originally Posted by Ducttape
(Post 2719529)
Your dues don’t go to the PAC, so your “point” is specious.
You said... With these massive increases in salaries ALPA is raking it in and I can’t stand for a Union where, most Pilots I talk to, are conservative and this Union is giving freely to Democrats... again WTF The irony is incredible. Many of the high paid ALPA employees are union represented, as their pay is negotiated as part of a CBA. Would you rather the people representing our Union to not be a part of a union? You don’t want their union to be able to negotiate a fair wage for their work? You see the irony of that, being that we are no different when asking for the same with our management counterparts? As for your random 1.2% max union rate and bonuses not subject to dues, since you pulled that from nowhere, it’s not worth discussing. Remember it was your republican representation that axed the union dues tax write off. |
Originally Posted by frozenboxhauler
(Post 2710291)
Actually ALPA PAC gave 51% to Democrats and 49% to Republicans last year,...but why let facts get in the way of a good story. ;)
fbh C’mon boys, this ain’t 1950 anymore. Unions are nothing more than corrupt garbage. I’ll just pretend I didn’t hear that the guys negotiating our work contracts directly affecting our lives are being “paid off” by the airlines themselves. If money is being taken out of my paycheck for non gov reasons, I have a right to know exactly where every penny is going and a ******ing choice to say if I want it to go there or not. The ALPA is just a corporation of workers, for profit, no different than any other corporation. |
Originally Posted by frozenboxhauler
(Post 2710291)
Actually ALPA PAC gave 51% to Democrats and 49% to Republicans last year,...but why let facts get in the way of a good story. ;)
Originally Posted by stabapch
(Post 2753249)
Ha, this couldn’t be further from the truth!
So, it turns out your 'beliefs' "couldn't be further from the truth!" |
Originally Posted by Flytolive
(Post 2753267)
You ought to take your own advice. 48% of ALPA-PAC's 2016 and 45% of ALPA-PAC's 2018 election cycle election contributions were made to Republicans and none of those PAC funds come out of dues.
So, it turns out your 'beliefs' "couldn't be further from the truth!" “None of those PAC funds come out of dues” Sorry to inform you, but this has been debunked years ago through multiple media sources. Unions in the 21st century do not exist solely for their member’s interests. |
Originally Posted by stabapch
(Post 2753535)
LOL my beliefs are outside of union propaganda.
Gotta love low-information 'believers'. Bless your little heart. |
I'm happy with my PAC money spent in the most effective way possible. It's all about ROI, not fairness or a 50-50 split.
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Originally Posted by Flytolive
(Post 2753557)
Actually, your 'beliefs' are outside of reality. Good luck with that and sorry to bother you with the facts that as you say can "research (on) any .gov website."
Gotta love low-information 'believers'. Bless your little heart. But hey this is why nothing will ever change in this country or industry. There’s just too many ignorant flying sheep up there to shoot down and the union heads love them sheep! |
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