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Old 12-05-2018, 02:29 PM   #21  
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51 is more than 49... right? Unless in your “cloudy” World math doesn’t make sense, which wouldn’t surprise me
Your dues don’t go to the PAC, so your “point” is specious.

You said...

With these massive increases in salaries ALPA is raking it in and I can’t stand for a Union where, most Pilots I talk to, are conservative and this Union is giving freely to Democrats... again WTF

The irony is incredible. Many of the high paid ALPA employees are union represented, as their pay is negotiated as part of a CBA. Would you rather the people representing our Union to not be a part of a union? You don’t want their union to be able to negotiate a fair wage for their work?

You see the irony of that, being that we are no different when asking for the same with our management counterparts?

As for your random 1.2% max union rate and bonuses not subject to dues, since you pulled that from nowhere, it’s not worth discussing.

Remember it was your republican representation that axed the union dues tax write off.
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Old 12-24-2018, 02:00 PM   #22  
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Your dues don’t go to the PAC, so your “point” is specious.

You said...

With these massive increases in salaries ALPA is raking it in and I can’t stand for a Union where, most Pilots I talk to, are conservative and this Union is giving freely to Democrats... again WTF

The irony is incredible. Many of the high paid ALPA employees are union represented, as their pay is negotiated as part of a CBA. Would you rather the people representing our Union to not be a part of a union? You don’t want their union to be able to negotiate a fair wage for their work?

You see the irony of that, being that we are no different when asking for the same with our management counterparts?

As for your random 1.2% max union rate and bonuses not subject to dues, since you pulled that from nowhere, it’s not worth discussing.

Remember it was your republican representation that axed the union dues tax write off.
$80k to $100k for secretarial Jobs? Christ, remove a few regional FO’s to full time union duty and you’d save money and have pilots more knowledgeable about union operations.
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Old 01-16-2019, 05:37 AM   #23  
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Actually ALPA PAC gave 51% to Democrats and 49% to Republicans last year,...but why let facts get in the way of a good story.
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That's really my problem with the PAC. Rather than support democrats or republicans, lets support professional pilot legislation.

I don't like union money, be it dues, or voluntary contributions going to individuals or their campaigns. don't care what party it is.
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Old 01-23-2019, 06:25 AM   #24  
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Your dues don’t go to the PAC, so your “point” is specious.

You said...

With these massive increases in salaries ALPA is raking it in and I can’t stand for a Union where, most Pilots I talk to, are conservative and this Union is giving freely to Democrats... again WTF

The irony is incredible. Many of the high paid ALPA employees are union represented, as their pay is negotiated as part of a CBA. Would you rather the people representing our Union to not be a part of a union? You don’t want their union to be able to negotiate a fair wage for their work?

You see the irony of that, being that we are no different when asking for the same with our management counterparts?

As for your random 1.2% max union rate and bonuses not subject to dues, since you pulled that from nowhere, it’s not worth discussing.

Remember it was your republican representation that axed the union dues tax write off.
Without a national seniority list none of this matters.

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Old 01-30-2019, 06:41 PM   #25  
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Actually ALPA PAC gave 51% to Democrats and 49% to Republicans last year,...but why let facts get in the way of a good story.
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Ha, this couldn’t be further from the truth! Go research any .gov website. Everything is there under the freedom of information act. Actually I’ll make it real easy for ya, just research who funds Nancy Pelosi... ALPA, APA, IBT, IBEW, etc...

C’mon boys, this ain’t 1950 anymore. Unions are nothing more than corrupt garbage. I’ll just pretend I didn’t hear that the guys negotiating our work contracts directly affecting our lives are being “paid off” by the airlines themselves.

If money is being taken out of my paycheck for non gov reasons, I have a right to know exactly where every penny is going and a ******ing choice to say if I want it to go there or not. The ALPA is just a corporation of workers, for profit, no different than any other corporation.
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Old 01-30-2019, 07:05 PM   #26  
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Ha, this couldn’t be further from the truth!
You ought to take your own advice. 48% of ALPA-PAC's 2016 and 45% of ALPA-PAC's 2018 election cycle election contributions were made to Republicans and none of those PAC funds come out of dues.

So, it turns out your 'beliefs' "couldn't be further from the truth!"
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Old 01-31-2019, 07:21 AM   #27  
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You ought to take your own advice. 48% of ALPA-PAC's 2016 and 45% of ALPA-PAC's 2018 election cycle election contributions were made to Republicans and none of those PAC funds come out of dues.

So, it turns out your 'beliefs' "couldn't be further from the truth!"
LOL my beliefs are outside of union propaganda. ALPA, APA, IBT are directly sponsoring democratic congressional leaders. You can look any congressman up and find out who sponsors them and how much money is given and that’s only the published info... I’m not talking about election campaigns. The point is that your money coming from your paycheck in the form of “union dues” goes towards political funding without your input.

“None of those PAC funds come out of dues”

Sorry to inform you, but this has been debunked years ago through multiple media sources.

Unions in the 21st century do not exist solely for their member’s interests.
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Old 01-31-2019, 07:54 AM   #28  
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LOL my beliefs are outside of union propaganda.
Actually, your 'beliefs' are outside of reality. Good luck with that and sorry to bother you with the facts that as you say can "research (on) any .gov website."

Gotta love low-information 'believers'. Bless your little heart.
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Old 01-31-2019, 08:16 AM   #29  
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I'm happy with my PAC money spent in the most effective way possible. It's all about ROI, not fairness or a 50-50 split.
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Actually, your 'beliefs' are outside of reality. Good luck with that and sorry to bother you with the facts that as you say can "research (on) any .gov website."

Gotta love low-information 'believers'. Bless your little heart.
Your the same kind of guy that believes his government exists for the people. HA let’s talk about reality now! I would certainly hope you don’t get yourself into a big situation banking on that ‘union representation’ to bail ya out! I feel for your mislead kind.

But hey this is why nothing will ever change in this country or industry. There’s just too many ignorant flying sheep up there to shoot down and the union heads love them sheep!
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