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Excargodog 12-14-2021 04:47 AM

COLA in the CBA…
 
At this rate if you don’t have your wages pegged to the CPI you could pretty easily halve your real wages every give years.

https://i.ibb.co/VQTMNM8/73-A186-F8-...8-EB86-D63.jpg

BoilerUP 12-14-2021 05:56 AM

2000-2020 CPI averaged 2.1%. In that 21 year time frame, CPI has exceeded 3% only five times.

2021 is gonna be a big one, no doubt...but while I've never bought the "transitory" line from the Fed I think there's scant reason to believe these kinds of sharp increases will continue at the same rate for years on end into the future.

Excargodog 12-14-2021 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 3335525)
2000-2020 CPI averaged 2.1%. In that 21 year time frame, CPI has exceeded 3% only five times.

2021 is gonna be a big one, no doubt...but while I've never bought the "transitory" line from the Fed I think there's scant reason to believe these kinds of sharp increases will continue at the same rate for years on end into the future.

In which case nobody should object to putting CPI adjustments in the contracts then. The social security and military retirees just got a 5.9% increase for 2022 due to the current CPI. Most major CBAs had a 2-3% increase for the year. They went backwards two to three years worth, doesn’t take many years like that to make a 5 year CBA a losing proposition.

For every 100,000 in wages you earn today, five years at 2% will leave you with only $90,578. At 3% for 5 years that would go down to $86,260 in value.

Do the math yourself.

Profane Kahuna 12-22-2021 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3335546)
In which case nobody should object to putting CPI adjustments in the contracts then. The social security and military retirees just got a 5.9% increase for 2022 due to the current CPI. Most major CBAs had a 2-3% increase for the year. They went backwards two to three years worth, doesn’t take many years like that to make a 5 year CBA a losing proposition.

For every 100,000 in wages you earn today, five years at 2% will leave you with only $90,578. At 3% for 5 years that would go down to $86,260 in value.

Do the math yourself.

Yep, not sure why any Pilot would argue against this?

galaxy flyer 12-27-2021 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 3335525)
2000-2020 CPI averaged 2.1%. In that 21 year time frame, CPI has exceeded 3% only five times.

2021 is gonna be a big one, no doubt...but while I've never bought the "transitory" line from the Fed I think there's scant reason to believe these kinds of sharp increases will continue at the same rate for years on end into the future.


Even 3-4 years would be a big hit plus the inevitable recession as the result of disinflation. ‘73-‘84 wasn’t a picnic.

Excargodog 12-31-2021 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by galaxy flyer (Post 3342809)
Even 3-4 years would be a big hit plus the inevitable recession as the result of disinflation. ‘73-‘84 wasn’t a picnic.

https://i.ibb.co/4Sdn7pY/7021-EE58-2...EEE7-A00-D.jpg

Excargodog 12-31-2021 10:17 AM

https://i.ibb.co/tQ3NV2d/621-F1735-E...-C5-B74-AB.jpg

Excargodog 01-12-2022 06:08 AM

Any CBA not containing a CPI offset (or a 7% annual boost for THIS year) is losing ground from the moment it is signed:

https://i.ibb.co/wQYq03k/5-F2-CB9-ED...324-C5-DD3.jpg

4dalulz 01-16-2022 10:55 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 3335525)
2000-2020 CPI averaged 2.1%. In that 21 year time frame, CPI has exceeded 3% only five times.

2021 is gonna be a big one, no doubt...but while I've never bought the "transitory" line from the Fed I think there's scant reason to believe these kinds of sharp increases will continue at the same rate for years on end into the future.

"Transitory" inflation cycles (in the US) have generally lasted 18 to 24 months. This one seems in line with that... happened in 80-82, 89-90, and now, not a big deal unless you're at minimum wage (why in the $*#@ is that so low again by the way? is it freedum?) or not under a CBA (unfortunate for most 'mericans, though they do it to themselves).


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