More dissatisfied ALPA customers?
#21
I don't have to justify ANYTHING to you. There are quite a few people who frequent these forums who can vouch for my use of the insignia. I earned it. The hard way. And I was an enlisted guy. "Sir" doesn't impress me too much.
Vietnam, 75th Rangers, Chu Lai, Da Nang 70-71.
Your turn. Justify your crappy attitude.
Last edited by Ranger; 09-25-2007 at 08:42 PM.
#22
My pleasure.
#23
Fedex.
I don't have to justify ANYTHING to you. There are quite a few people who frequent these forums who can vouch for my use of the insignia. I earned it. The hard way. And I was an enlisted guy. "Sir" doesn't impress me too much.
Vietnam, 75th Rangers, Chu Lai, Da Nang 70-71.
Your turn. Justify your crappy attitude.
I don't have to justify ANYTHING to you. There are quite a few people who frequent these forums who can vouch for my use of the insignia. I earned it. The hard way. And I was an enlisted guy. "Sir" doesn't impress me too much.
Vietnam, 75th Rangers, Chu Lai, Da Nang 70-71.
Your turn. Justify your crappy attitude.
Onyx's on me next time we meet.
#24
I just bought a box. They're in the humidor drinking large and copious quantities of J.D. I'll be on the planet next month for whatever the hell they call that AQP stuff now. Check my calender and see if we're there at the same time and call me if we are. I'll pack a couple of extra Onyx's for you.
Rangers lead the way!
Sorry, force of habit.
#25
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2007
Posts: 52
Throwing ALPA out is the FIRST STEP into establishing a new, stronger NATIONAL UNION with a NATIONAL CONTRACT, ie. 737 pilots at carrier "A" gets paid the same as 737 pilots at carrier "B". (No national seniority, I think it would be too hard to establish.)
We need a National union that has some backbone. ALPA only cares about itself and their own high paying jobs.
We need a National union that has some backbone. ALPA only cares about itself and their own high paying jobs.
#26
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2005
Position: Telecom Company, President
Posts: 421
YES to National Seniority list.
Just because you think it would be hard to establish is not the reason to not do it. It should be a goal. If a pilot at Airline A wants to work at Airline C or D due to QOL or a base closer to his home then he should be allowed to do that. Restrictions would have to put in place to protect guys at Airline C or D but there is no reason why someone should have to commute from California to NYC to fly for a living.
Just because you think it would be hard to establish is not the reason to not do it. It should be a goal. If a pilot at Airline A wants to work at Airline C or D due to QOL or a base closer to his home then he should be allowed to do that. Restrictions would have to put in place to protect guys at Airline C or D but there is no reason why someone should have to commute from California to NYC to fly for a living.
#27
AHHH, the JD infusion! I fondly recall enjoying them on the walk from the Rhiga Royal to the Noodle Shop. I really miss the long-haul. But hey, I'm on a 39hr layover in GRR right now! You can't beat that.
Regards,
Clutch
#28
You didn't complain pre-911 did you..........??
#29
HOSED BY PBS AGAIN
Joined APC: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,713
Just gave a CAL newhire a jumpseat ride the other day. He was "anti-ALPA/anti-union", but was bragging about how CALALPA/ALPA jumped in to help his wife (another CAL pilot newhire) obtain a TAX FREE check for $25,000, and disability payments of around $2100 a month after she was diagnosed with a form of cancer (they are expecting her to have a full recovery back to flying status in a couple more months). While the treatments are in progress, they are both "enjoying her time off with paid vacations courtesy of ALPA"..............his words, not mine. Talk about kicking a gift horse in the mouth. My FO and I were both appalled.
#30
Line Holder
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 81
Throwing ALPA out is the FIRST STEP into establishing a new, stronger NATIONAL UNION with a NATIONAL CONTRACT, ie. 737 pilots at carrier "A" gets paid the same as 737 pilots at carrier "B". (No national seniority, I think it would be too hard to establish.)
We need a National union that has some backbone. ALPA only cares about itself and their own high paying jobs.
We need a National union that has some backbone. ALPA only cares about itself and their own high paying jobs.
What we really need in this country is a Guild. Similar to the Actors and Performers Guild. Every 121 pilot in the nation would be a member of the Pilot's Guild. This would create in a sense a master seniority list. The Guild would hire, fire, and manage all pilots. The Guild would train all pilots. A company that say needs 100 Airbus pilots would come to the Guild and the Guild would offer the next 100 non-working pilots in seniority order a job at that company. The Guild would set salaries, working conditions, benefits, and all other aspecs of the profession. Pilots would become a fixed cost like an airplane or landing fee and every airline would pay the same for a 5 year Airbus FO. No airline would have to have a training department as the Guild would train the pilots and the companies would pay a training fee for each pilot. The FAA would love this as it would be the perfect form of standardization and safety. Every Airbus 319 crew whether it be Northwest, USAir, or United would be operating the same way. Those that didn't join the Guild and tried to work for companies feelance would be scabs. We would truly have a national seniority list, a huge group with lots of power, and wouldn't feel the need to stab one another in the back to get seniority or a better position. There is much more to the Guild idea and several people are seriously working on this. There is just too much to write on this forum. It's like laying out the engineering plans for a city in one paragraph.
The two biggest obstacles are money and the old unions. Someone would have to bankroll the idea and it would cost to get rid of the old unions. Yes it's a monumental task but face it; the current unions may in the short term get you another day off and a few dollars an hour more, but they don't and can't address the larger and long term issues that will be facing our pilot group in the near future. Think about it.
Last edited by Jettubby; 10-04-2007 at 06:30 PM.
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