Teamsters and ALPA -- Compare and Contrast
05-05-2016, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Roundup
ALPA lost its collective mind during the 80's. We had a republican as MEC Chair and thousands of pilots on the street. If you want references for ALPA, I recommend asking any Braniff, Eastern, Continental or Frontier pilots. Or even a former member of PATCO. There's a reason no large ALPA carrier has risked a strike in 30 years.
05-06-2016, 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Roundup
ALPA lost its collective mind during the 80's. We had a republican as MEC Chair and thousands of pilots on the street. If you want references for ALPA, I recommend asking any Braniff, Eastern, Continental or Frontier pilots. Or even a former member of PATCO. There's a reason no large ALPA carrier has risked a strike in 30 years.
05-06-2016, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
You have a very poor understanding of what happened with the Delta pension plan.
I've been involved with both and the only thing the Airline Division of the Teamsters is good at is collecting dues.
05-08-2016, 05:20 PM
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Yep, The Northwest strike. The one major US airline no one had a problem with. If you look back United couldn't risk a strike, there were too many ex-Frontier pilots who would have danced across that picket line. Delta and American had their problems too. They may look at ALPA or the APA as a security blanket but it requires a workforce who will supports labor and basically 75% of commercial pilots think their republicans.
07-25-2016, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Scraggly Heron
Why is IPA only at UPS? It seems like it's viewed pretty favorably from what I've read here.
IPA is the ups pilots union, it serves just the ups pilot group. SWAPA and APA serves just their pilot groups as well.
ALPA is a larger animal...each pilot group participating in ALPA gets their own MEC which runs locally within the airline but dues are paid to ALPA for some of the heavy lifting (read bribes/influence) for such items as 117 and age 65 rule.
I prefer the IPA over being affiliated with ALPA. We have our own agenda and hence our own best interests at heart when we are represented by IPA pilots alone.
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06-14-2017, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ClutchCargo
Can you point me to a non-ALPA large carrier that has struck the last 30 years? Oh yeah, AAL went on strike for 10 minutes in 1997!
06-14-2017, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Roundup
ALPA lost its collective mind during the 80's. We had a republican as MEC Chair and thousands of pilots on the street. If you want references for ALPA, I recommend asking any Braniff, Eastern, Continental or Frontier pilots. Or even a former member of PATCO. There's a reason no large ALPA carrier has risked a strike in 30 years.
06-14-2017, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Pilot7576
Heron,
IPA is the ups pilots union, it serves just the ups pilot group. SWAPA and APA serves just their pilot groups as well.
ALPA is a larger animal...each pilot group participating in ALPA gets their own MEC which runs locally within the airline but dues are paid to ALPA for some of the heavy lifting (read bribes/influence) for such items as 117 and age 65 rule.
I prefer the IPA over being affiliated with ALPA. We have our own agenda and hence our own best interests at heart when we are represented by IPA pilots alone.
JMO
IPA is the ups pilots union, it serves just the ups pilot group. SWAPA and APA serves just their pilot groups as well.
ALPA is a larger animal...each pilot group participating in ALPA gets their own MEC which runs locally within the airline but dues are paid to ALPA for some of the heavy lifting (read bribes/influence) for such items as 117 and age 65 rule.
I prefer the IPA over being affiliated with ALPA. We have our own agenda and hence our own best interests at heart when we are represented by IPA pilots alone.
JMO
08-15-2017, 02:55 PM
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Due to family Ive been involved with politics most my life.
Political action committees are a difficult animal to control. By sheer nature you can hide funding through them thats why they were created. They work great depending on your goals and views lol
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Political action committees are a difficult animal to control. By sheer nature you can hide funding through them thats why they were created. They work great depending on your goals and views lol
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