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Dougdrvr 07-28-2009 07:56 AM

RAH Teamsters
 
What's really going on with RAH's union? Being unfamiliar with Teamsters heirarcy, are there any pilot officers under indictment or just the one "lawyer"? Do they have to start all over in negotiations? Who actually runs the show while in custodianship?

TPROP4ever 07-28-2009 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by Dougdrvr (Post 652015)
What's really going on with RAH's union? Being unfamiliar with Teamsters heirarcy, are there any pilot officers under indictment or just the one "lawyer"? Do they have to start all over in negotiations? Who actually runs the show while in custodianship?


If you are refering to Gene Sowell ( the Lawyer ), his being removed didnt affect the ongoing negotiations at my company, my rep told me things are still progressing, so I wouldnt think it would be a problem, but I will preface by saying that we had just started negotiations when Sowell got canned.

TillerEnvy 07-28-2009 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by TPROP4ever (Post 652421)
If you are refering to Gene Sowell ( the Lawyer ), his being removed didnt affect the ongoing negotiations at my company, my rep told me things are still progressing, so I wouldnt think it would be a problem, but I will preface by saying that we had just started negotiations when Sowell got canned.

Um..not sure where you've been, but we've been negotiations for over 2 years and Sowell has been gone only a few months. Did you seriously not know this?

xjetsig 10-11-2009 05:03 PM

How are the stewards compensated.
Do they get trips paid for?
What are your dues %?
How many stewards are assigned to each base?
How many pilots participate in the Local meetings and Big Meeting?
What is the structure?

Curious

Dougdrvr 10-12-2009 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by xjetsig (Post 692525)
How are the stewards compensated.
Do they get trips paid for?
What are your dues %?
How many stewards are assigned to each base?
How many pilots participate in the Local meetings and Big Meeting?
What is the structure?

Curious

...........(crickets chirping)..................

xjetsig 10-12-2009 11:08 AM

Wow,

I'm just looking for an answer.

There goes a tumble weed

ATCsaidDoWhat 10-13-2009 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by Dougdrvr (Post 652015)
What's really going on with RAH's union? Being unfamiliar with Teamsters heirarcy, are there any pilot officers under indictment or just the one "lawyer"? Do they have to start all over in negotiations? Who actually runs the show while in custodianship?

RAH is one of the airlines in Local 747. Each airline has their own elected pilot representatives, just like ALPA. They also conduct their own negotiations, with the assistance of the IBT's lawyers and staff, all of whom have extensive airline labor and RLA experience. They also have access to other disciplines as they need them.

The other matter you refer to was putting Local 747 into emergency trusteeship and the removal of Gene Sowell, who was President of Local 747, for cause. A couple of business agents were also removed. This required the naming of an acting trustee to ensure that the rights of the members at all the airlines in Local 747 were protected. Hearings have been conducted by an independant panel and both sides, Sowell and the IBT, presented their cases. Pilots were also invited to testify. The final report is due out soon.

The negotiations at RAH, Horizon and others are ongoing. The biggest difference is that they are now getting the unqualified support that the pilots at those airlines deserved all alone; not support driven by political favoritism.

In general terms to your questions, IBT dues are pegged at 1.56%. They stay with the airline and are not funnelled upstream. Of the 1.56%, .22% of that is paid to the International for admin and related costs. Individual pilot groups have the right to raise their own dues, however if they do, none of the additional monies are part of the .22% computation. The financial controls are very tight these days; money can't be co-mingled and accountability is absolute.

Trustees are elected by the pilots of the airline. Stewards, who process grievances at the individual carriers are also pilots elected by their peers. The number is determined by the pilot group.

Work is largely done on days off. Since the unit (airline) is responsible for their own expenses, if trip drops are unavailable, most only pay for the specific days needed to do the work. Bidding or picking up a big trip with the intent of dropping it and getting paid to do a day or two of work is not generally allowed.

Again, these are general answers. Each individual carrier has the right to make rule changes as long as they conform to the Constitution and ByLaws of the IBT.

TPROP4ever 10-20-2009 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by TillerEnvy (Post 652469)
Um..not sure where you've been, but we've been negotiations for over 2 years and Sowell has been gone only a few months. Did you seriously not know this?

and why would I know what your company is up to, my company was what I was refering to, that being said we just had a meeting with some new blood at the teamsters and I'm happy with what I'm seeing with this new group, so far...

xjetsig 10-21-2009 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by ATCsaidDoWhat (Post 693687)
RAH is one of the airlines in Local 747. Each airline has their own elected pilot representatives, just like ALPA. They also conduct their own negotiations, with the assistance of the IBT's lawyers and staff, all of whom have extensive airline labor and RLA experience. They also have access to other disciplines as they need them.

The other matter you refer to was putting Local 747 into emergency trusteeship and the removal of Gene Sowell, who was President of Local 747, for cause. A couple of business agents were also removed. This required the naming of an acting trustee to ensure that the rights of the members at all the airlines in Local 747 were protected. Hearings have been conducted by an independant panel and both sides, Sowell and the IBT, presented their cases. Pilots were also invited to testify. The final report is due out soon.

The negotiations at RAH, Horizon and others are ongoing. The biggest difference is that they are now getting the unqualified support that the pilots at those airlines deserved all alone; not support driven by political favoritism.

In general terms to your questions, IBT dues are pegged at 1.56%. They stay with the airline and are not funnelled upstream. Of the 1.56%, .22% of that is paid to the International for admin and related costs. Individual pilot groups have the right to raise their own dues, however if they do, none of the additional monies are part of the .22% computation. The financial controls are very tight these days; money can't be co-mingled and accountability is absolute.

Trustees are elected by the pilots of the airline. Stewards, who process grievances at the individual carriers are also pilots elected by their peers. The number is determined by the pilot group.

Work is largely done on days off. Since the unit (airline) is responsible for their own expenses, if trip drops are unavailable, most only pay for the specific days needed to do the work. Bidding or picking up a big trip with the intent of dropping it and getting paid to do a day or two of work is not generally allowed.

Again, these are general answers. Each individual carrier has the right to make rule changes as long as they conform to the Constitution and ByLaws of the IBT.

Thanks for the info. I have heard the dues were higher than 1.56 but, it sounds like your pilot group has their act together. Thanks again


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