Mulva

And worth every freaking penny! You couldn't pay me enough to do the work these excellent people do on our behalf. They work tirelessly in their efforts with a huge negative impact to their spare time and families. I'm more than happy to provide them this incentive.

Mulva

On the contrary, it is unbelievably painfully clear that many on this board have made ZERO effort to even understand any of this. For starters, the RPC is a viable option conceived by FAPA and a handful of it's members. RPC is unequivocally NOT FAPA with a new name. RPC IS a joint "council" made up of 3 reps each from RAH and F9, most likely 3 IBT and3 FAPA. Ultimately that decision will be up to each and every one of us. Here at F9, we are quite happy with our current representation so will most certainly send 3 current FAPA reps to populate our seats on the RPC. In can't speak for "native" RAH guys but assume they would send 3 current 357 reps as well. Doesn't matter to me though. You can Micky Mouse, Daffy Duck and Bugs Bunny if you want. But it would be nice if the 6, in aggregate, have the smarts and skillsets to provide a unified leadership and guidance for our (initially) separate bargaining agents (IBT357 and FAPA) as efforts are made to work with each other rather than fight. You guys just don't seem to get (or want to get) this message. Yes, we want FAPA involved in the RPC in the same way IBT357 would be. I can just about guarantee you the Frontier pilot group will vote unanimously for RPC. It will not be any louder or clearer what we think the best and healthiest option is. Ultimately, this is your decision. You are all in the drivers seat here. The big question is, after studying the RPC option, is RPC a structure that could work for us all while also starting the process of healing, rather than continuing the divisiveness. Most of us think it is a decent compromise where no body loses, we can all win.

As for the litigation, I could pretty much assume FAPA had close to 100% support from their membership on the NMB and SLI challenges. And I'll be the first to agree that these actions would rub me the wrong way if I were in your shoes, but I'm not. If we can find a way (RPC?) to work together then I am in total support of stopping these counterproductive actions and focusing on out future together. However, if forced into unwanted representation by IBT, I (and I imagine most F9 pilots) will fully support any reasonable and legal effort to further delay this entire process. Right or wrong, I just can't feel comfortable with IBT representation as may well soon be dictated to us and see it in our best interest to force the issue with our $2.2M checkbook. None of this is meant as a threat, just a realistic take on what the future looks like depending on the choices you all make in the next few weeks.

In golfing terms, we're asking you to consider "laying up" and taking the safest shot. That way you might win the tournament. Or you could just wind up with your driver and cross your fingers you don't get buried in a trap or in the pond. Again, you guys get to choose, but PLEASE don't assume an IBT victory in this election will mark the beginning of a long period of peace and prosperity.

It highly doubt it will!

FAULTPUSH

$5 per month per pilot to pay the $38,000. It'd be a bargain at $20 per month.

If you can't attack the message, uh....say something meaningless?

FlyGirl007

Forget the "golfing terms." This is nothing more than elementary playground antics (bullying). Allow me to translate this thinly veiled threat: FAPA - "We play OUR way, or we take our ball and go home."

Mulva

Without a doubt, a bargain for the efforts we get.

Mulva

Then I guess you ought to just let er rip, huh? Go for the 350 yard bomb. It's a lower percentage shot, but maybe worth the risk.. Your choice Fantasy Flier!

ToiletDuck

Maybe I'm missing something but what's wrong with someone saying they plan on moving up to bigger equipment in the future? And how does that statement have anything to do with what Dan wrote above?

ToiletDuck

How would you know if you had when you don't even know what it is? I'd advise reading it.

Once again you should probably read it. The LOA wouldn't get "thrown out" but rather enacted.




Vote IBT.

ToiletDuck

You're saying it's your way or the highway. Doesn't sound like much of an option. If you're only looking out for yourself here why expect anything different of others? I'm not seeing your willingness to cooperate when you say to either vote RPC or you hope to be USAPA. When you start showing your true character like this I can't imagine anyone wanting your RPC.

FAULTPUSH

We're saying it's your way for you, and our way for us, with coordination between the two for a common goal. You're saying it's IBT. Period. Not even the highway option.

D'oh! You weren't lying. My sincere apologies. We'd better hope that BB doesn't see that clause, or he'll toss the LOA. I'd say the conditions have been met. I wonder why he's even bothering with the collaborative bargaining thing.