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OperatorError 07-22-2011 08:22 AM

USAPA Pilots fights back with USA Today
 
Awesome full page article taken out today to educate the general public about the constant pressures of management. Excellent job!

http://usairlinepilots.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8155& Itemid=413

qball 07-22-2011 08:41 AM

Gee....maybe ALPA could take a lesson from that.


Originally Posted by OperatorError (Post 1026923)
Awesome full page article taken out today to educate the general public about the constant pressures of management. Excellent job!


US Airways Pilots Are Committed To Safety First!


Cactusone 07-22-2011 09:18 AM

What kind of morons lie to the public and tell your passengers that the airline you work for is unsafe?....uh never mind it's USAPA. Classic fools.

bcrosier 07-22-2011 10:09 AM

I'm no USAPA fan, but I've got to give them credit on this one - well played. I doubt ALPA will be taking a lesson from it anytime soon, they'll be too busy paying the lawyers and pilots at TWA they defrauded. Morons.

ATCsaidDoWhat 07-22-2011 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by Cactusone (Post 1026952)
What kind of morons lie to the public and tell your passengers that the airline you work for is unsafe?....uh never mind it's USAPA. Classic fools.

Maybe some of the commentary could have used some better plain English explanations but your comment shows either a complete lack of understanding of what has happened at other carriers; or you are so young that you don't know what happened under the Lorenzo years in this industry.

Regardless, you ought to be standing square with pilots who refuse unsafe aircraft and blow the whistle on any management that pushes pilots to fly like that, or threatens crewmembers with arrest if they interfere. Put your East - West venom aside and focus here instead of showing your immaturity.

eaglefly 07-22-2011 10:30 AM

A PR nightmare for U management.........could you imagine a planeload of U pax sitting there reading this on their flight ?

Dougie must be throwing things around his office about now....perhaps he'll go home and drop-kick the cat ?

BUDDHA 07-22-2011 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by Cactusone (Post 1026952)
What kind of morons lie to the public and tell your passengers that the airline you work for is unsafe?....uh never mind it's USAPA. Classic fools.

?????? :rolleyes: Doug are you drinking again???

Fishfreighter 07-22-2011 01:49 PM

Looks like threatening to make their safety concerns public didn't work. When you make that threat, you have to take the next step...make the concerns public.

Cactusone 07-22-2011 02:34 PM

Capt. Roseanne Bar gets on the PA (on the plane and at the gate) to tell everyone how the the plane is unsafe is moronic. Security was called by gate agents and she was escorted away. In the end USAtoday makes $153,000 in full page ad for a hyped and exaggerated incident by USAPA, while pilots are the lowest paid in the industry. Stay classy CLT.

bcrosier 07-22-2011 03:00 PM

We get it - you're justifiably ticked by the stupidity of the existence of USAPA, I don't disagree with you. That said, if an idiot says something profound it's still profound, and if a wise man utters something foolish it's still foolish. All I know about this is the little I've read here and online, but it looks to me like USAPA at least hit a double on this regardless of your personal feelings about them. This seems to be bigger than any one pilot group or union, this speaks to the authority of the captain which has been steadily eroding for the past decade or more. If there is any substance to the claims of USAPA, then they have done a good thing here.

If anything, security should have hauled away the gate agents for interfering with an aircrew member performing their duties, unless she was relieved by appropriate persons listed in the company's AOM/FOM or whatever Useless Airways calls it, and then that person should have been named in the ad.


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