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Old 10-04-2011, 05:27 PM   #1  
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I keep seeing these ALPA email saying 100 pilots demonstrated in DC for movement on the fatigue rules. Why can't we organize a bigger show like 10,000 pilots knocking on Obama's door and get these rules pushed through with some nation attention? I would attend if our union can get it together. How can we get this type of thing going...or is this to drastic?
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Old 10-04-2011, 07:43 PM   #2  
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I keep seeing these ALPA email saying 100 pilots demonstrated in DC for movement on the fatigue rules. Why can't we organize a bigger show like 10,000 pilots knocking on Obama's door and get these rules pushed through with some nation attention? I would attend if our union can get it together. How can we get this type of thing going...or is this to drastic?
Just playing devil's advocate, but... were you there?
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I keep seeing these ALPA email saying 100 pilots demonstrated in DC for movement on the fatigue rules. Why can't we organize a bigger show like 10,000 pilots knocking on Obama's door and get these rules pushed through with some nation attention? I would attend if our union can get it together. How can we get this type of thing going...or is this to drastic?

Frankly it is a waste of my time as well as others. The other problem is I cannot stand ALPA since they have done jack squat for pilots in the industry as a whole. The other problem is DC. I can remember watching all those hearings that the house and senate put on to appease the families from the buffalo crash. All those politicians pouring their hearts on camera for the families. Then the next distraction hit and all this got back burnered. Status Quo!!!!

From what I can see they have caved into the airline lobbyists. All about money as usual. Nothing will ever change. I pay my dues to ALPA to leave me alone. I wish you could check a box to opt out of that magazine that goes straight in the trash when it shows up in my mailbox.

I work for a regional who is facing probably 400 furloughs once we lose the rest of the airframes that are going to be cut. Our union hasn't done [email protected]@t except put a blow up rat outside the office during our last negotiations. Alot of this I blame on ALPA from pitting every pilot group in this country whether a regional or major against each other. Been going on well before my time.

Look how long it has taken to get crew pass or known pilot or whatever they will call it next week. Pretty complicated to get a moron from TSA with a laptop to check id's when CASS has been around long before my short airline career started. ALPA claims a moral victory getting this going. Whatever!!!

I remember watching the ALPA movie during the brain washing hour as a new hire. I believe ALPA was founded on safety if I recall correctly. The modern ALPA is far from that. They seem to talk a good game.

So no I will not go to some protest. I would rather be at home doing stuff I have control of like cutting my damn grass! Done venting!!!

p.s. Don't give me crap about Comair going on strike. I wasn't there when it happened and it appears to have created more problems then good.
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Simple, most pilots don't want to be lumped with the parasite class.

Labor Unions Join Occupy Wall Street for New York Rally - ABC News

Or perhaps they have a better grasp on reality.

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I must admit a real sense of confusion here, let me see if I have the correct view. The unions are now protesting the very ones they just spent a barge load of money putting in power? How can this be, and what are the implications?

Buyers remorse? Truth in advertising? Whatever can the trouble be, and how do we overcome the twin horns of this conundrum we seem to be impaled upon?

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