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02-25-2017, 01:40 PM
#31
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Joined APC: Feb 2012
Position: 787
Posts: 3,137
Originally Posted by oldmako
ajax,
Seniority is everything. Been living it for 31 years and I wouldn't have it any other way. But when "rightful expression of seniority" is someone gloating for sport while sporting a raised middle digit it tends to get my dander up. Particularly those who got hired at 23 or 24 and made it to the left seat in 3 or 4 years, and then spent the last 15 as Wide Body Captains. And, the guys who got the windfall of age 65 while I and my classmates got sent packing. Both groups just got lucky. They don't have any magic juju that any other new hire lacks, yet they seem to think that their digestive residue has a pleasing odor. Those are the dudes I won't miss. I submit that The Lost Decade crowd understands what no seniority means better than most. We don't need to be reminded of it, nor reprimanded for the lack of it.
My mentors were guys who spent 15 years on the panel, so I understand just how good I have had it. But those same guys understood how lopsided this gig is and how, with just a few minor changes we could improve it for everyone, from DOH to DOR. For example, I paid for housing during new hire training. That was idiotic and I'd be glad to do my part to ensure that new hires don't have to.
That's just one small example. Seems like UA has morphed into one big "what's in it for ME" group now, and I find that unseemly.
Mine is a pointless (female dog) I know. And if I didn't someone will surely remind me.
Seniority is everything. Been living it for 31 years and I wouldn't have it any other way. But when "rightful expression of seniority" is someone gloating for sport while sporting a raised middle digit it tends to get my dander up. Particularly those who got hired at 23 or 24 and made it to the left seat in 3 or 4 years, and then spent the last 15 as Wide Body Captains. And, the guys who got the windfall of age 65 while I and my classmates got sent packing. Both groups just got lucky. They don't have any magic juju that any other new hire lacks, yet they seem to think that their digestive residue has a pleasing odor. Those are the dudes I won't miss. I submit that The Lost Decade crowd understands what no seniority means better than most. We don't need to be reminded of it, nor reprimanded for the lack of it.
My mentors were guys who spent 15 years on the panel, so I understand just how good I have had it. But those same guys understood how lopsided this gig is and how, with just a few minor changes we could improve it for everyone, from DOH to DOR. For example, I paid for housing during new hire training. That was idiotic and I'd be glad to do my part to ensure that new hires don't have to.
That's just one small example. Seems like UA has morphed into one big "what's in it for ME" group now, and I find that unseemly.
Mine is a pointless (female dog) I know. And if I didn't someone will surely remind me.
02-25-2017, 02:39 PM
#32
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Joined APC: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,071
Mako,
Reading your post reminds me of the fact that you listened to the stories of the mentors when times were good. It's a shame you provide your own set of stories to be glossed over by the ME generation of present and past. From the quiet ex Eastern(rEAL) or Pan Am pilot who sat in the right seat of the 27 or left seat of the Airbus, to the United pilot who sat sideways for 18 years, to the struggles if the 2172/1437 taught me the most. Yes, being junior is not a choice. Whether you're a new hire, a retread, or simply have the misfortune of being at the right place at the wrong time, someone will suffer being last.
There are times when I might stray from the reservation but fortunately I have good friends who remind me what is really important.
Thanks Shaft.
Reading your post reminds me of the fact that you listened to the stories of the mentors when times were good. It's a shame you provide your own set of stories to be glossed over by the ME generation of present and past. From the quiet ex Eastern(rEAL) or Pan Am pilot who sat in the right seat of the 27 or left seat of the Airbus, to the United pilot who sat sideways for 18 years, to the struggles if the 2172/1437 taught me the most. Yes, being junior is not a choice. Whether you're a new hire, a retread, or simply have the misfortune of being at the right place at the wrong time, someone will suffer being last.
There are times when I might stray from the reservation but fortunately I have good friends who remind me what is really important.
Thanks Shaft.
02-25-2017, 03:44 PM
#34
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Joined APC: Apr 2006
Position: 737 CA
Posts: 2,750
Denver CPO breakfast on Wed. All the Mucks will be there. I'm guessing they'll be talking about the big announcement that's coming Monday or Tuesday. I'm hearing some of those 350s will be converted to 321s. And some more used 320s are on the way. Guess it's time to start brushing up on our French.
02-25-2017, 03:50 PM
#35
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 108
Originally Posted by jsled
Denver CPO breakfast on Wed. All the Mucks will be there. I'm guessing they'll be talking about the big announcement that's coming Monday or Tuesday. I'm hearing some of those 350s will be converted to 321s. And some more used 320s are on the way. Guess it's time to start brushing up on our French.
02-25-2017, 08:23 PM
#39
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Joined APC: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,159
Originally Posted by jsled
Denver CPO breakfast on Wed. All the Mucks will be there. I'm guessing they'll be talking about the big announcement that's coming Monday or Tuesday. I'm hearing some of those 350s will be converted to 321s. And some more used 320s are on the way. Guess it's time to start brushing up on our French.
02-26-2017, 02:55 AM
#40
Don't say Guppy
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Position: Guppy driver
Posts: 1,926
Originally Posted by oldmako
Clearly, you guys need to get a hobby!
I'm just posting while tippling. Life is good.
Don't like being junior? Quit!
I'm just posting while tippling. Life is good.
Don't like being junior? Quit!
I knew some day I would convert you to my way of thinking. LOL
Posting while tipping, of course.
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