MEC Chairman's Message - Early Section 6
#11
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They'll have grand plans for which RJ's are essential. Updated mainline/rj ratios will be proposed. You'll be told how much you'll benefit from approving these new ratios, and the dire outlook if you don't. They'll tell you how we can't afford to fly those planes at mainline. Really? How many of those rj flights connect passengers to high dollar international flights?
1.) if the deciding factor on the profitability of an airframe is the cost of the crew, you probably shouldn't buy it
2.) pilots don't buy airplanes
3.) you say you want to compete with Delta, guys what they're bringing to mainline
4.) how much did the Dr Dao incident cost United in bad press etc, when it occurred on a regional aircraft... and how many years of savings flying those RJs did it destroy?
#12
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They want something. Management spread the sales pitch at the domicile town halls and standards meetings knowing the lca's and standards capts will do their bidding. This has to set in to the point that pilots have mental sightings of the aircraft in United colors on the ramps of Toulouse, Everett, or third party vendors. Refurbished and ready to go. The carrot
Now comes early section 6 coinciding with a couple references to a reduction in mainline flying if their demands aren't met.
The stick.
They'll have grand plans for which RJ's are essential. Updated mainline/rj ratios will be proposed. You'll be told how much you'll benefit from approving these new ratios, and the dire outlook if you don't. They'll tell you how we can't afford to fly those planes at mainline. Really? How many of those rj flights connect passengers to high dollar international flights?
How many of you new hires were frustrated being stuck at the regionals/military for ten years or longer during the great regional experiment? How many of you are tired of seeing substandard service at the regionals? How many of you are tired of getting kicked off a jumpseat on OUR routes? Lower boarding priority on a regional flight on OUR routes? GMAB
If management does not possess the skills to operate those planes as mainline, then I guess we should shrink. It doesn't look good on their resume though. It's time to leave this profession in a better position then many of us found it.
Now comes early section 6 coinciding with a couple references to a reduction in mainline flying if their demands aren't met.
The stick.
They'll have grand plans for which RJ's are essential. Updated mainline/rj ratios will be proposed. You'll be told how much you'll benefit from approving these new ratios, and the dire outlook if you don't. They'll tell you how we can't afford to fly those planes at mainline. Really? How many of those rj flights connect passengers to high dollar international flights?
How many of you new hires were frustrated being stuck at the regionals/military for ten years or longer during the great regional experiment? How many of you are tired of seeing substandard service at the regionals? How many of you are tired of getting kicked off a jumpseat on OUR routes? Lower boarding priority on a regional flight on OUR routes? GMAB
If management does not possess the skills to operate those planes as mainline, then I guess we should shrink. It doesn't look good on their resume though. It's time to leave this profession in a better position then many of us found it.
#13
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About 30-50 post on this thread on a (regular) basis.
That is LESS than 1%! (about .4%)
So lets not worry about "negotiating" in public.
This forum (like so many others) are just a way to vent and post an opinion.
In the big scheme of things.. means nothing~
Just 'my' opinion
Motch
#14
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The memory of those RJ's invading our system still nauseates me. Scope choke is working. Nothing is stopping them buying the planes for us to fly. It's not personal, it's business.
#15
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Agreed, but I never under estimate the amount of pilots that can't see the forest from the trees and love $$$.
#16
I submit that one-quarter of the current list would vote to relax scope with only minimal saber-rattling and threats by the co. Kirby knows this. Now, all he has to do is convince the next 26 percent. Sometimes, pigs do fly.
Fortunately we have a strong MC who knows better.
This cherry dose of pessimism is brought to you by the past.
Fortunately we have a strong MC who knows better.
This cherry dose of pessimism is brought to you by the past.
#18
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Just flew with a TK instructor. Could not have been more glowing about Munoz/Kirby presentation at TK and the follow through of request for early openers. Buyer beware to say the least. Not blaming MEC for accepting offer, but HIGHLY skeptical this is good thing. And for record JH did a fabulous job with extension.
#19
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Just flew with a TK instructor. Could not have been more glowing about Munoz/Kirby presentation at TK and the follow through of request for early openers.Buyer beware to say the least. Not blaming MEC for accepting offer, but HIGHLY skeptical this is good thing. And for record JH did a fabulous job with extension.
#20
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Just flew with a TK instructor. Could not have been more glowing about Munoz/Kirby presentation at TK and the follow through of request for early openers. Buyer beware to say the least. Not blaming MEC for accepting offer, but HIGHLY skeptical this is good thing. And for record JH did a fabulous job with extension.
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