Aquaticus

Too bad Boeing or Airbus doesn't make an airplane capable of filling this gap our management has discovered. They have spent millions developing aircraft and researching markets worth flying too but our crack team has found a hole in their theory ... That is sarcasm for the overly dense bunch. If they don't make it we probably don't need it. All these low cost carriers (with almost double our profit margins) are able to fill 230 seat airbuses without regional feed, on routes that we have flown 50 seat rj's on for years. Develop the market, throw a 737 or bus on it, and redeploy the rj to smaller markets. The 50 seater isn't a product anyone can be proud of. Why expand the mission of the 70 seater to something that no one wants, needs, or regionals can staff?

Scoop

Social media is a tool for communication - both good and bad.

At Delta social media was instrumental in shooting down the turd known as TA-1 for contract 15. I strongly believe that all Pilot groups are better off for this since it sent a strong message to all airline management that the days of BK concessions are over.

Good luck UAL Pilots!

Scoop

Monkeyfly

You're gonna need a pretty thick carpet...

NYGiantsFan

Kirby and management must be smoking something if they think they can add more RJ's... all regionals cant staff today. They will never beable to staff future RJ's flying at the regionals.... the manpower is just not there. With future hiring plans at all 3 legacies, SWA,JB,FEDEX,UPS the regionals will cease to exist. I thought managements everywhere knew this.. I guess not, can someone please ask this question on the next management meeting if they are pushing for relaxing scope how they plan on staffing RJ's for relaxed scope? thx

Boeing Aviator

Troll go back to your posts on NAI threads gloating over what you hope to be an opportunity to work for that scumbag airline.

Future Scab in waiting here nothing to see.

rightside02

Don't care the money offered . Scope relaxing is not an option for me . Nearly 10 years at the RJ/prop route with zero movement . 30 years to go , scope would kill those 30 years .

Boeing Aviator

I agree with you, JH did an outstanding job with the extension. If my memory is correct the extension was ratified by over 70% of the pilots. Not sure if many know this but the TA came very close to not making it out of MEC ratification. If one more rep had voted no it would have been roll called and it would have failed at the MEC level never making it to membership ratification. Additionally, the current Master Chairman (Grevience Chairman at the time) made his wishes for the extension to be rejected by the MEC known to MEC reps at the time.

rightside02

Prior to my time here, but what was unliked about the extension ?

oldmako

Plenty. Too much to type. I suggest that you search this forum for all the arguments. You'll need several malt beverages once you find the threads.

Basically, (as I now recall) the union suggested that there were a few things that could be improved upon (in the short term) in exchange for a nice raise. Those specific items were listed as bullet points and were said to be inviolate and necessary in order to enter into the talks. Then, Mother U pushed back on reserve rules and told us to pound sand. Miraculously and in spite of what the union said initially, the extension proposal was quickly presented to the membership and then ratified by 72 or 73 percent.

Yes, I voted no and was vocal about it. There were plenty of union reps who also thought it was a bad idea. At this point, it's just dirty water long under the bridge.

Its a bit ironic that here we are now and suddenly everyone is gooey about opening section 6 early. We could have opened it up two years ago, when the company really needed relief from our work rules to fly the 787 on the ultra long, potentially ultra profitable 787 routes. Of course, we GAVE that away for the extension. It was like trading a nice waterfront home for a doublewide in a trailer park. Pfffffft.

awax

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