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scudrunner13 11-09-2017 10:27 AM

Hogan
 
Good Afternoon,

I recently received an email from United about being selected for the pilot selection process. First step is the Hogan, any advice or info on passing it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

Slats Extend 11-09-2017 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by scudrunner13 (Post 2463222)
Good Afternoon,

I recently received an email from United about being selected for the pilot selection process. First step is the Hogan, any advice or info on passing it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!


Yes, take it well rested, pay attention to the questions and Do NOT TRY TO GAME THE ANSWERS.

Capiche? Good Luck!

MasterOfPuppets 11-09-2017 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by scudrunner13 (Post 2463222)
Good Afternoon,

I recently received an email from United about being selected for the pilot selection process. First step is the Hogan, any advice or info on passing it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

Don’t over think it. That’s all I did and all I can say for advice. Just answer the question.

Congrats and good luck. Glad to see interviews starting up again.

Aquaticus 11-09-2017 12:07 PM

Insert: "In General..." before each question and add "... at work" at the end.

ex: In general "Do you like to make up stories?" at work? - No


In general "are you always annoyed at the people around you" at work? - No

FlyingJman 11-16-2017 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by scudrunner13 (Post 2463222)
Good Afternoon,

I recently received an email from United about being selected for the pilot selection process. First step is the Hogan, any advice or info on passing it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

+++ from an article I found on these types of tests in general: +++


The ‘Big 5’ Aspects of Personality

The personality questionnaires used in the recruitment and selection process of any company are the intellectual property of the companies that produce them. What goes into them, and what the customer (the company doing the hiring) are looking for specifically are proprietary information. However, it's helpful to know what general areas they all are trying to assess... The personality traits they look at can be lumped into 5 general categories/personality traits which are:

• Extraversion
• Agreeableness
• Conscientiousness, (sometimes referred to as Prudence)
• Neuroticism
• Openness to Experience

It is important to ignore the positive or negative associations that these words have in everyday language. For example, Agreeableness is obviously advantageous for achieving and maintaining popularity. But is not useful in situations that require tough or totally objective decisions. ‘Disagreeable’ people can make excellent scientists, critics, or soldiers. Remember, none of the five traits is in themselves positive, or negative, they are simply characteristics that individuals exhibit to a greater or lesser extent. Each of these 5 personality traits describes, relative to other people, the frequency or intensity of a person's feelings, thoughts, or behaviours. In other words, all 5 personality traits exist on a continuum rather than as attributes that a person does or does not have.

+++ End of article excerpt +++

Comment: For anyone that's passed the Hogan, all they can really tell you is that they passed. Just barely? or Crushed it? Who knows?... but I think it's important to at least understand the big 5 areas listed above... Then, I think what you need to do is run your answers through the filter of these big 5... and more importantly, ask yourself, what would a prospective employer be looking for in each of these 5 areas for a prospective first officer/captain.

I've known good people/pilots that failed this test, and after talking to them, they thought it was some weird test designed to specifically measure their technical piloting abilities... After taking it myself, it seems pretty obvious these are NOT tests written by and specifically for pilots... but if that's all you've ever been tested on in the last whatever number of years I guess you might fail to see these tests for what they are.

IMO, they are tests written by psychologists, at the behest of HR departments, as a way to ultimately satisfy legal departments. I hope they aren't the first hurdle in the hiring process in the future because I think they unnecessarily screen out some great people/pilots.

more info can be found here:

Psychometric Success - Free Practice Aptitude Tests

sourdough44 11-21-2017 05:33 AM

Yeah, I wonder how truly effective these tests are over more tradional means. Of course there has to be some type of evaluation process.

Like other parts of the selection process, one needs to navigate through the hoops the best they can. If one trips at one stage, take a breather, wait the required time, then reapply.

No need to take any of it to personal. Include some self evaluation in the mix too. Enlist professional help also when appropriate.

StrykerB21 12-04-2017 11:09 AM

How long does it take to hear back after you've taken the test?

BigDukeSix 12-04-2017 11:27 AM

Should be the next day.

ShyGuy 12-04-2017 12:02 PM

How does United 'score' the airlineapps? Hand graded? Computer only grading? What would trigger an application review?

FlyingJman 12-04-2017 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 2477376)
How does United 'score' the airlineapps? Hand graded? Computer only grading? What would trigger an application review?

I went to two job fairs about two years ago and remember the United rep there very clearly saying they were very proud of their objective computer-based interview selection criteria. They essentially said they could "run the program" and it would spit out the top X candidates from its pool of applicants... and they stressed the point that the criteria was 'secret sauce' that they wouldn't share with those of us at the job fair seeking to crack the code. They did then go into generalities that anyone would expect... and stressed the importance of updating your apps with any relevant changes.

crflyer 12-04-2017 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by StrykerB21 (Post 2477343)
How long does it take to hear back after you've taken the test?

It is not necessarily the next day. Depends on when you took it. Took it Friday? Won’t hear until at least Monday. I did that and heard on Tuesday.

SeamusTheHound 12-06-2017 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by scudrunner13 (Post 2463222)
Good Afternoon,

I recently received an email from United about being selected for the pilot selection process. First step is the Hogan, any advice or info on passing it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

Well????

Did you take the advice and pass the test?

spaaks 02-01-2018 04:04 PM

Any updates on Hogan advice? I know a few guys that just got the email

BigDukeSix 02-01-2018 04:38 PM

End every question with “at work”!

FlewNavy 02-01-2018 05:00 PM

Think about how this guy from the hogan website would answer...then do the opposite:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f57mGsZXF34

UAL350 02-01-2018 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by spaaks (Post 2517479)
Any updates on Hogan advice? I know a few guys that just got the email

200 questions. True/False

There are no tricks. Be truthful. Take it well rested and in a distraction free environment.

Read the statements carefully. Look for words like often, always, sometimes and never.

bizzlepilot 02-03-2018 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by FlewNavy (Post 2517523)
Think about how this guy from the hogan website would answer...then do the opposite:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f57mGsZXF34

Or answer it just like that guy, because really, who the hell does this Hogan dude think he is? :eek:

Winston 02-03-2018 08:25 PM

Holy crap: Who knew they had a whole YouTube channel? Lots of study material there:

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCZ_jKBxV_egdC6fzomrevPQ

I’d love to see how I scored in each section when I took the test a few years ago.

Beaver Hunter 02-03-2018 08:43 PM

It’s a funny test. For example. Drug. I really don’t care except for my family if you want to do drugs. I just don’t want to pay for it with my taxes. Of course you should not be near a airplane if you take ileagal drugs or anything that inspires your judgement. But when I was 28 it was hell no! I could understand how someone may enjoy working in a flower shop vs a gun store. Both are relaxing to me.

Tandem46 02-05-2018 03:16 PM

Anyone hear anything today? Took the Hogan early Friday but crickets thus far.

OCF Flier 02-05-2018 05:59 PM

I took it Last Saturday and got interview invite on Tuesday.

FYI, earliest interviews are in April.

Turk U2 02-06-2018 08:45 AM

OCF...just so you know, pilot hiring was sending out emails with interview slots that open up due to guys/gals taking other jobs. I was able to move up from the end of March to next week. Just make sure you have email notifications enabled on your phone...I missed two chances because I saw the email 20+ minutes after it was sent.

TCASTESTOK 02-25-2018 08:10 AM

And how would these tests satisfy legal departments?


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