New Hire Classes and Drops
Now that the company is consistently updating class dates I figured I would start a place for information to potential new hires. (Hopefully the significant gaps in hiring are over)
the company has started posting class dates on our company portal. Today they announced a march 6 class date. It appears that the plan is to update planned classes about 2 months out. Here is what we know for now: JAN 23 (32 in class) FEB 6 FEB 20 MAR 6 There are NO hard numbers posted for class sizes, just the class dates. These are also furlough classes, so expect some spots to be filled by the 200ish furloughs still out through fall 2019. Unfilled vacancies over the past few months have been: 737 - EWR, SFO, LAX 320 - EWR, SFO, LAX 756 - EWR, DCA, SFO, LAX Last few classes have been given 737 and A320. Good luck to all! |
Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
(Post 2510266)
Now that the company is consistently updating class dates I figured I would start a place for information to potential new hires. (Hopefully the significant gaps in hiring are over)
the company has started posting class dates on our company portal. Today they announced a march 6 class date. It appears that the plan is to update planned classes about 2 months out. Here is what we know for now: JAN 23 (32 in class) FEB 6 FEB 20 MAR 6 There are NO hard numbers posted for class sizes, just the class dates. These are also furlough classes, so expect some spots to be filled by the 200ish furloughs still out through fall 2019. Unfilled vacancies over the past few months have been: 737 - EWR, SFO, LAX 320 - EWR, SFO, LAX 756 - EWR, DCA, SFO, LAX Last few classes have been given 737 and A320. Good luck to all! |
Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
(Post 2510266)
Now that the company is consistently updating class dates I figured I would start a place for information to potential new hires. (Hopefully the significant gaps in hiring are over)
the company has started posting class dates on our company portal. Today they announced a march 6 class date. It appears that the plan is to update planned classes about 2 months out. Here is what we know for now: JAN 23 (32 in class) FEB 6 FEB 20 MAR 6 There are NO hard numbers posted for class sizes, just the class dates. These are also furlough classes, so expect some spots to be filled by the 200ish furloughs still out through fall 2019. Unfilled vacancies over the past few months have been: 737 - EWR, SFO, LAX 320 - EWR, SFO, LAX 756 - EWR, DCA, SFO, LAX Last few classes have been given 737 and A320. Good luck to all! |
FWIW, just flew w/an interview capt. Said he had 4 days of interviews scheduled next month. Also said PCs next fall may be moved to accommodate more training.
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Originally Posted by Viperstick
(Post 2513366)
FWIW, just flew w/an interview capt. Said he had 4 days of interviews scheduled next month. Also said PCs next fall may be moved to accommodate more training.
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Originally Posted by Viperstick
(Post 2513366)
FWIW, just flew w/an interview capt. Said he had 4 days of interviews scheduled next month. Also said PCs next fall may be moved to accommodate more training.
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Originally Posted by bizzlepilot
(Post 2513714)
Viper you'll have to pardon my ignorance, but what is a PC? Thanks!
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Originally Posted by bizzlepilot
(Post 2513714)
Viper you'll have to pardon my ignorance, but what is a PC? Thanks!
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
(Post 2513722)
A PC is a yearly proficiency check. We don’t use those at UA anymore but many of us still use the acronym. UA now does 9 month checks fist is an MV (maneuvers validation) then 9 months later is an LOE ( line oriented evaluation). Then repeat.......
Continuing Qualification Training Manuvers Validation and the Continuing Qualification Training Line Oriented Evaluation. |
Thanks for the replies gents, much more clear now. Sounds like a good time every 9 months...
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
(Post 2513989)
CQTMV and the CQTLOE
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Originally Posted by bizzlepilot
(Post 2512545)
Thanks for the updates MoP! I'm in the pool now, hoping to get to class this summer after I retire from the AF. Counting the days...
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Could anyone who has recently received a CJO please advise on how long a wait to start training? I have an interview coming up in a few weeks and a deployment several months from now. I realize I’m putting the cart before the horse, but would like to know for planning sake just in case. Thanks in advance.
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When is your availibility date? I have an app in and curious how far out they are offering interviews right now.
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I’ve had it at two weeks notice for several years. Hogan invite came in mid December.
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Originally Posted by JDLitt
(Post 2517805)
Could anyone who has recently received a CJO please advise on how long a wait to start training? I have an interview coming up in a few weeks and a deployment several months from now. I realize I’m putting the cart before the horse, but would like to know for planning sake just in case. Thanks in advance.
Friend of mine just received a CJO this week and was told to expect a Fall class date. So, with that being said I think you should be fine in regards to the deployment. |
Originally Posted by VnavPath
(Post 2517840)
Friend of mine just received a CJO this week and was told to expect a Fall class date. So, with that being said I think you should be fine in regards to the deployment.
Seems to me, telling someone to expect a class in 6 months is outrageous. Wonder how many people who end up in the pool for 6+ months last and come to work for us? How many start at Delta, American, FedEx, UPS or SouthWest? Yes, we should interview and have a pool. No, the process shouldn't take 9 months or longer.. in the current environment. Just my opinion. Welcome aboard Motch PS> I will add that 6+ months might be ok for a Military guy who will be separating in the future. But for (almost) anyone else?! |
Originally Posted by horrido27
(Post 2518069)
Is your friend applying anywhere else?
Seems to me, telling someone to expect a class in 6 months is outrageous. Wonder how many people who end up in the pool for 6+ months last and come to work for us? How many start at Delta, American, FedEx, UPS or SouthWest? Yes, we should interview and have a pool. No, the process shouldn't take 9 months or longer.. in the current environment. Just my opinion. Welcome aboard Motch PS> I will add that 6+ months might be ok for a Military guy who will be separating in the future. But for (almost) anyone else?! I have multiple well qualified freinds that can’t even get one call let alone multiple. So for a lucky few they have a choice to make, for most of the others they will be very happy with a fall class date. I had my app in since 2010 with everyone, didn’t get a call tell 2013 from United. Waited 2 months in the pool and started class. Its not as easy to get hired as some people think it is, even in this environment. We’re just now putting people in class from March of last year. A few left the pool but a lot didn’t. |
Originally Posted by horrido27
(Post 2518069)
Is your friend applying anywhere else?
Seems to me, telling someone to expect a class in 6 months is outrageous. Wonder how many people who end up in the pool for 6+ months last and come to work for us? How many start at Delta, American, FedEx, UPS or SouthWest? Yes, we should interview and have a pool. No, the process shouldn't take 9 months or longer.. in the current environment. Just my opinion. Welcome aboard Motch PS> I will add that 6+ months might be ok for a Military guy who will be separating in the future. But for (almost) anyone else?! He's got an interview at DL as well, although UAL is his first choice. He's going to do the DL interview and see how it goes, then make a decision when the time comes. He's fortunate to have a very good paying job overseas right now so he's not bothered by an extra month or two wait. Both DL and AA have had 6-12 month waits for class in the past year or two, so it's all a bit of luck and timing. |
Originally Posted by VnavPath
(Post 2518195)
He's got an interview at DL as well, although UAL is his first choice. He's going to do the DL interview and see how it goes, then make a decision when the time comes. He's fortunate to have a very good paying job overseas right now so he's not bothered by an extra month or two wait. Both DL and AA have had 6-12 month waits for class in the past year or two, so it's all a bit of luck and timing.
Bottom line is you can’t take it personally |
Originally Posted by Setopbug
(Post 2514245)
That's awesome! Look forward to flying with you.
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Originally Posted by JDLitt
(Post 2517805)
Could anyone who has recently received a CJO please advise on how long a wait to start training? I have an interview coming up in a few weeks and a deployment several months from now. I realize I’m putting the cart before the horse, but would like to know for planning sake just in case. Thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by bizzlepilot
(Post 2518357)
CJO in early December, told to expect training "sometime in the middle of 2018." Hit me up if you have any questions on the interview, and good luck on the deployment. Hopefully it's at least a flying gig and not the dirty dirty CAOC or something worse.
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
(Post 2518093)
I have multiple well qualified freinds that can’t even get one call let alone multiple. So for a lucky few they have a choice to make, for most of the others they will be very happy with a fall class date.
I had my app in since 2010 with everyone, didn’t get a call tell 2013 from United. Waited 2 months in the pool and started class. Its not as easy to get hired as some people think it is, even in this environment. We’re just now putting people in class from March of last year. A few left the pool but a lot didn’t. |
Originally Posted by BeeWatcher
(Post 2519035)
and you had a daddy helping you from the inside...
By the way I sent you a PM, months ago asking why you seem to have a chip on your shoulder against me. So now I’ll ask you in public what do you have against me? I don’t have a clue who you are yet you seem to know me...... |
Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
(Post 2518093)
I had my app in since 2010 with everyone, didn’t get a call tell 2013 from United. Waited 2 months in the pool and started class. Its not as easy to get hired as some people think it is, even in this environment.
Between the L-CAL and later UAL pretty sure mine was close to 10 years. Sadly I know guys that are now pressing 13 with job fairs, career counseling reviewed apps, clean records, and crickets. Although I will admit, if you had a dad on the inside that is a bit of a “wait”. I’ve know a lot of other people with various boxes checked that waited longer than it would have seemed.
Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
(Post 2519049)
By the way I sent you a PM, months ago asking why you seem to have a chip on your shoulder against me. So now I’ll ask you in public what do you have against me? I don’t have a clue who you are yet you seem to know me......
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Originally Posted by horrido27
(Post 2518069)
Is your friend applying anywhere else?
Seems to me, telling someone to expect a class in 6 months is outrageous. Wonder how many people who end up in the pool for 6+ months last and come to work for us? How many start at Delta, American, FedEx, UPS or SouthWest? Yes, we should interview and have a pool. No, the process shouldn't take 9 months or longer.. in the current environment. Just my opinion. Welcome aboard Motch PS> I will add that 6+ months might be ok for a Military guy who will be separating in the future. But for (almost) anyone else?! |
Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
(Post 2519049)
I had a lot of people help me from the inside. I am very lucky and humbled that they helped me. Like I said it’s not easy to get hired if I didn’t have help who knows if I would have been called by now.
By the way I sent you a PM, months ago asking why you seem to have a chip on your shoulder against me. So now I’ll ask you in public what do you have against me? I don’t have a clue who you are yet you seem to know me...... |
Originally Posted by 757Driver
(Post 2519255)
Maybe it's your dad he doesn't care for?
If he has a problem with me or my dad he’s welcome to PM me and we’ll talk about it........ |
Anyways back on topic.....
Last class was Jan 23. Class of 30: EWR 737/320 SFO 737/320 LAX 737 Last 4 in class got SFO 320 Current open bid closes Monday has unfilled vacancies: EWR 737/320 SFO 737/320 |
MOP. I also come from an airline family. It doesn’t deminish your accomplishment at all. Everybody’s journey here is different.
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6 Feb drop
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attached is the class drop for today (6Feb 2018)
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Seems like a big class. Any idea how many are furlough returns?
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Originally Posted by 82spukram
(Post 2521361)
Seems like a big class. Any idea how many are furlough returns?
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Ran into a guy today starting OE on 757. His whole class of 29 was from the 2001 furlough. Think they came back in the NOV class. This class no idea but they are coming back some 18 years later.
Originally Posted by 82spukram
(Post 2521361)
Seems like a big class. Any idea how many are furlough returns?
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Originally Posted by Ni hao
(Post 2521440)
Ran into a guy today starting OE on 757. His whole class of 29 was from the 2001 furlough. Think they came back in the NOV class. This class no idea but they are coming back some 18 years later.
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
(Post 2521480)
That would explain the cancelation of the NOV class.
And they got to/will eventually go, but sucks for the dudes that got the call for that class on Friday morning and then ANOTHER call in the afternoon saying they wouldn't go. Some will have waited just shy of 3 months. |
Welcome aboard FEB 6th class!
32 total SFO 737/320 LAX 737/320 EWR 737/320 Bottom 14 all got the 320 Bottom two got EWR 320 Next class up FEB 20th |
Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
(Post 2523129)
Welcome aboard FEB 6th class!
32 total SFO 737/320 LAX 737/320 EWR 737/320 Bottom 14 all got the 320 Bottom two got EWR 320 Next class up FEB 20th Funny how things change. My new hire class of 24...top 12 took airbus. (granted that fleet sizes are very different now). |
Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
(Post 2523129)
Welcome aboard FEB 6th class!
32 total SFO 737/320 LAX 737/320 EWR 737/320 Bottom 14 all got the 320 Bottom two got EWR 320 Next class up FEB 20th |
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