Percentage of flying done by regionals.
#1
Percentage of flying done by regionals.
I am one in support of facts, and I find the ability of people on the internet to make posts that are fallacious and then have that information gain a life of it's own to be the single biggest failing of the internet. With that in mind here is last month's posting by UCH of RPMS. The point here is that regionals do not carry anything close to what mainline carries in any measure be it passengers or miles, and if you are a subset of regionals you are even a smaller fraction which over the last two decades has changed radically every 5 years or less.
It's all about keeping a healthy perspective . . . on ALL sides.
It's all about keeping a healthy perspective . . . on ALL sides.
#2
I am one in support of facts, and I find the ability of people on the internet to make posts that are fallacious and then have that information gain a life of it's own to be the single biggest failing of the internet. With that in mind here is last month's posting by UCH of RPMS. The point here is that regionals do not carry anything close to what mainline carries in any measure be it passengers or miles, and if you are a subset of regionals you are even a smaller fraction which over the last two decades has changed radically every 5 years or less.
It's all about keeping a healthy perspective . . . on ALL sides.
It's all about keeping a healthy perspective . . . on ALL sides.
#4
First of all they don't post that statistic. Second of all it would still be a minor fraction especially when considered on a company by company basis. Your post has no factual basis, but yet you post and people who sympathize with your sentiment shake their head in agreement and the myth continues. Regionals represent a small piece of the pie and to think otherwise is simply not factual.
I am not trying to say mainline pilots are better than regional pilots. What I am trying to show with a simple factual chart is that regional flying is a small piece of the total flying especially when considered on a company by company basis, and what is worse is that the mainline companies have simply ravaged the regionals every few years to get the lowest cost possible for this feed.
When I was 23 I vowed I would never fly a jet for a non-mainline carrier. I got hired off a Beech 1900. If every pilot had the same opinion as mine regionals would never have had a place in history. I don't expect my Utopian view to be popular, but I just hope regional pilots of today can empathize a little better with mainline pilots. No one foresaw 9/11 or age 65 or the financial collapse of 2008 and THAT is really what enabled the 50 seaters and then the 70 seaters to proverbially Take Off. Today we should all be focused on reversing that trend regardless of where we work.
I am not trying to say mainline pilots are better than regional pilots. What I am trying to show with a simple factual chart is that regional flying is a small piece of the total flying especially when considered on a company by company basis, and what is worse is that the mainline companies have simply ravaged the regionals every few years to get the lowest cost possible for this feed.
When I was 23 I vowed I would never fly a jet for a non-mainline carrier. I got hired off a Beech 1900. If every pilot had the same opinion as mine regionals would never have had a place in history. I don't expect my Utopian view to be popular, but I just hope regional pilots of today can empathize a little better with mainline pilots. No one foresaw 9/11 or age 65 or the financial collapse of 2008 and THAT is really what enabled the 50 seaters and then the 70 seaters to proverbially Take Off. Today we should all be focused on reversing that trend regardless of where we work.
#5
First of all they don't post that statistic. Second of all it would still be a minor fraction especially when considered on a company by company basis. Your post has no factual basis, but yet you post and people who sympathize with your sentiment shake their head in agreement and the myth continues. Regionals represent a small piece of the pie and to think otherwise is simply not factual.
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I'm not saying the world would come to an end if mainline picked up all the regional passenger miles, and that woukd likely be a good thing for ALL of us if it happened, but based on a per passenger mile basis, RJs represent a disproportionately LARGE PORTION OF THE ATC and facilities burden.
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When I was 23 I vowed I would never fly a jet for a non-mainline carrier. I got hired off a Beech 1900. If every pilot had the same opinion as mine regionals would never have had a place in history. I don't expect my Utopian view to be popular, but I just hope regional pilots of today can empathize a little better with mainline pilots. No one foresaw 9/11 or age 65 or the financial collapse of 2008 and THAT is really what enabled the 50 seaters and then the 70 seaters to proverbially Take Off. Today we should all be focused on reversing that trend regardless of where we work.
The only people to blame for RJ's existing is the mainline pilots who sold out scope to keep a few more dollars in their paycheck.
There is no shortage of people wanting to fly for a living. Regionals have classes full until next year. It you create it, it will get staffed.
The only people creating this mess of a system are the greedy mainline pilots saying "eff the scum below me, I got mine." Now there are a few realizing the heavy intl flying is getting farmed out to JV's at the top and the regional jet flying is getting bigger at the bottom saying "oh no guys! let's band together now that my future wb job might be at risk!"
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Are you serious?
The only people to blame for RJ's existing is the mainline pilots who sold out scope to keep a few more dollars in their paycheck.
There is no shortage of people wanting to fly for a living. Regionals have classes full until next year. It you create it, it will get staffed.
The only people creating this mess of a system are the greedy mainline pilots saying "eff the scum below me, I got mine." Now there are a few realizing the heavy intl flying is getting farmed out to JV's at the top and the regional jet flying is getting bigger at the bottom saying "oh no guys! let's band together now that my future wb job might be at risk!"
The only people to blame for RJ's existing is the mainline pilots who sold out scope to keep a few more dollars in their paycheck.
There is no shortage of people wanting to fly for a living. Regionals have classes full until next year. It you create it, it will get staffed.
The only people creating this mess of a system are the greedy mainline pilots saying "eff the scum below me, I got mine." Now there are a few realizing the heavy intl flying is getting farmed out to JV's at the top and the regional jet flying is getting bigger at the bottom saying "oh no guys! let's band together now that my future wb job might be at risk!"
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Are you serious?
The only people to blame for RJ's existing is the mainline pilots who sold out scope to keep a few more dollars in their paycheck.
There is no shortage of people wanting to fly for a living. Regionals have classes full until next year. It you create it, it will get staffed.
The only people creating this mess of a system are the greedy mainline pilots saying "eff the scum below me, I got mine." Now there are a few realizing the heavy intl flying is getting farmed out to JV's at the top and the regional jet flying is getting bigger at the bottom saying "oh no guys! let's band together now that my future wb job might be at risk!"
The only people to blame for RJ's existing is the mainline pilots who sold out scope to keep a few more dollars in their paycheck.
There is no shortage of people wanting to fly for a living. Regionals have classes full until next year. It you create it, it will get staffed.
The only people creating this mess of a system are the greedy mainline pilots saying "eff the scum below me, I got mine." Now there are a few realizing the heavy intl flying is getting farmed out to JV's at the top and the regional jet flying is getting bigger at the bottom saying "oh no guys! let's band together now that my future wb job might be at risk!"
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Are you serious?
The only people to blame for RJ's existing is the mainline pilots who sold out scope to keep a few more dollars in their paycheck.
There is no shortage of people wanting to fly for a living. Regionals have classes full until next year. It you create it, it will get staffed.
The only people creating this mess of a system are the greedy mainline pilots saying "eff the scum below me, I got mine." Now there are a few realizing the heavy intl flying is getting farmed out to JV's at the top and the regional jet flying is getting bigger at the bottom saying "oh no guys! let's band together now that my future wb job might be at risk!"
The only people to blame for RJ's existing is the mainline pilots who sold out scope to keep a few more dollars in their paycheck.
There is no shortage of people wanting to fly for a living. Regionals have classes full until next year. It you create it, it will get staffed.
The only people creating this mess of a system are the greedy mainline pilots saying "eff the scum below me, I got mine." Now there are a few realizing the heavy intl flying is getting farmed out to JV's at the top and the regional jet flying is getting bigger at the bottom saying "oh no guys! let's band together now that my future wb job might be at risk!"
Let me ask this, did you want to be stuck in low paying jobs away from home or did you get take that job with the hope of moving into the big jets? We all know the answer is...
I love to fly and can’t believe I get paid to do it!
Right!!!
#10
Are you serious?
The only people to blame for RJ's existing is the mainline pilots who sold out scope to keep a few more dollars in their paycheck.
There is no shortage of people wanting to fly for a living. Regionals have classes full until next year. It you create it, it will get staffed.
The only people creating this mess of a system are the greedy mainline pilots saying "eff the scum below me, I got mine." Now there are a few realizing the heavy intl flying is getting farmed out to JV's at the top and the regional jet flying is getting bigger at the bottom saying "oh no guys! let's band together now that my future wb job might be at risk!"
The only people to blame for RJ's existing is the mainline pilots who sold out scope to keep a few more dollars in their paycheck.
There is no shortage of people wanting to fly for a living. Regionals have classes full until next year. It you create it, it will get staffed.
The only people creating this mess of a system are the greedy mainline pilots saying "eff the scum below me, I got mine." Now there are a few realizing the heavy intl flying is getting farmed out to JV's at the top and the regional jet flying is getting bigger at the bottom saying "oh no guys! let's band together now that my future wb job might be at risk!"
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