Originally Posted by Thunder1 (Post 2544825)

0 co-sponsors. That bill will never see the light of day.

Originally Posted by Thunder1 (Post 2543861)

Albie,

I am a United furloughee from 2008 and a current Southwest 7 year F/O and here is my advice for your friend:

1) Always drive to work vs commute if at all possible

2) Keep your first wife if at all possible

3) Nothing is certain in this industry. Don't believe the quick upgrades at United or the oft repeated they have a ton of retirements so you're golden, etc. My sim partner at United in 2008 was a 16 year 75/76 FO and finally took the A320 Upgrade. I was furloughed 5 months after completing training and within 9 months he was bumped from his Capt seat and downgraded back to 75.76 FO. Things can change in a hurry. Instead, look at the history of the company, the culture, their financials and their leadership team.

So, what am I saying....given the information you have provided it is a no brainer. Southwest all the way!

Best wishes.

P.S. -- pass this along as one data point for him as a guy living in domicile. 2017, 6 yr. F/O pay total compensation 285K and I worked less days than the average line holding narrow body United pilot. Caveat -- when I am at work -- we work -- very productive, but tiring trips for the most part. But stats don't lie -- less days at work for more pay.

Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 2545048)

If you don’t think this isn’t anything more than the first shot, you’ve got your head up your six.

Originally Posted by BeeWatcher (Post 2545246)

...they work fewer days but much, much harder.....

Originally Posted by PowderFinger (Post 2545511)

I work hard ... really hard.
Afternoon departure to Europe.
A nap or a movie enroute.
Get a nap in a nice hotel.
Dinner and beverage(s).
More lounging then bed.
Nap or movie enroute before the mid-afternoon arrival.
Commutable both ends.
Bid minimum time and drop from there.

I am ashamed to admit that I have lost the American work ethic of live to work and adopted the Euro work to live.

Originally Posted by 07Driver (Post 2541307)

You’re right, there’s definitely nothing prestigious about a 4 leg day on a 737 with an overnight in Midland.

Originally Posted by BeeWatcher (Post 2545246)

Southwest...no thank, unless I lived in one of their bases...I have good friends there and at 25 years plus our pay is very similar...they work fewer days but much, much harder...As for wives this isn't 1950; marry one that makes more than you and let her worry about keeping her first husband. Someone getting hired at United today will have much faster career progression than Southwest...

Originally Posted by cal73 (Post 2545814)

“I work less than you”
“Na uh. I work less than you”.

I hope you guys don’t talk like this in public.


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