Unsuccessful 1st interview, what next?
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Unsuccessful 1st interview, what next?
Sorry if I missed it, but looked through 15 pages and didn't see this topic mentioned before.
I just interviewed recently and received the TBNT, but you are eligible for consideration again in one year email. Was wondering if United usually invites you back for a second interview after the 12 months, or do you basically start from scratch with the 12,000+ other applicants in airlineapps?
Thanks in advance
I just interviewed recently and received the TBNT, but you are eligible for consideration again in one year email. Was wondering if United usually invites you back for a second interview after the 12 months, or do you basically start from scratch with the 12,000+ other applicants in airlineapps?
Thanks in advance
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Sorry if I missed it, but looked through 15 pages and didn't see this topic mentioned before.
I just interviewed recently and received the TBNT, but you are eligible for consideration again in one year email. Was wondering if United usually invites you back for a second interview after the 12 months, or do you basically start from scratch with the 12,000+ other applicants in airlineapps?
Thanks in advance
I just interviewed recently and received the TBNT, but you are eligible for consideration again in one year email. Was wondering if United usually invites you back for a second interview after the 12 months, or do you basically start from scratch with the 12,000+ other applicants in airlineapps?
Thanks in advance
But.....the same combination of quals that triggered the first interview are still intact.
#3
I would continue with the 'shotgun approach', apply to everyone you would be interested in and continue forward. I'm a bit taken aback at all the checks needed today to add up 'points' towards an interview. There there is the interview prep to go along with it. Yes, I'd do it all too.
Shake it off and press on. There may be little rhyme or obvious reason. Include some self evaluation to tip the scales next time, UAL or elsewhere.
Shake it off and press on. There may be little rhyme or obvious reason. Include some self evaluation to tip the scales next time, UAL or elsewhere.
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I got a chance to talk to one of our pilot interviewers and asked about percentages of success and failure reasons.
First, the whole pre-interview process is designed so all of those who make it to the interview are people who could be hired.
The percentage rate seems to be about 70% hired for those interviewed, but there is no required failure rate.
The interview failures come from:
1. Dishonesty
2. Canned answers.
3. An attitude of entitlement (I am owed this job).
4. Lack of empathy (doesn't work well with others).
5. No real indication of leadership and CRM skills.
These interviewers have heard it before, so if you can go and get some practice interviews and have someone evaluate your personality and presentation skills do it.
The bottom line is if you get an interview you're more than qualified by experience, you passed the Hogan personality test and now a real group of people just want to see if you'll fit into the culture of United Airlines pilots. Additionally they're confirming what your resume and the heartless Hogan test has said about you.
Good luck and I'm sorry to hear you didn't make it.
First, the whole pre-interview process is designed so all of those who make it to the interview are people who could be hired.
The percentage rate seems to be about 70% hired for those interviewed, but there is no required failure rate.
The interview failures come from:
1. Dishonesty
2. Canned answers.
3. An attitude of entitlement (I am owed this job).
4. Lack of empathy (doesn't work well with others).
5. No real indication of leadership and CRM skills.
These interviewers have heard it before, so if you can go and get some practice interviews and have someone evaluate your personality and presentation skills do it.
The bottom line is if you get an interview you're more than qualified by experience, you passed the Hogan personality test and now a real group of people just want to see if you'll fit into the culture of United Airlines pilots. Additionally they're confirming what your resume and the heartless Hogan test has said about you.
Good luck and I'm sorry to hear you didn't make it.
#6
Sorry if I missed it, but looked through 15 pages and didn't see this topic mentioned before.
I just interviewed recently and received the TBNT, but you are eligible for consideration again in one year email. Was wondering if United usually invites you back for a second interview after the 12 months, or do you basically start from scratch with the 12,000+ other applicants in airlineapps?
Thanks in advance
I just interviewed recently and received the TBNT, but you are eligible for consideration again in one year email. Was wondering if United usually invites you back for a second interview after the 12 months, or do you basically start from scratch with the 12,000+ other applicants in airlineapps?
Thanks in advance
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I got a chance to talk to one of our pilot interviewers and asked about percentages of success and failure reasons.
First, the whole pre-interview process is designed so all of those who make it to the interview are people who could be hired.
The percentage rate seems to be about 70% hired for those interviewed, but there is no required failure rate.
The interview failures come from:
1. Dishonesty
2. Canned answers.
3. An attitude of entitlement (I am owed this job).
4. Lack of empathy (doesn't work well with others).
5. No real indication of leadership and CRM skills.
These interviewers have heard it before, so if you can go and get some practice interviews and have someone evaluate your personality and presentation skills do it.
The bottom line is if you get an interview you're more than qualified by experience, you passed the Hogan personality test and now a real group of people just want to see if you'll fit into the culture of United Airlines pilots. Additionally they're confirming what your resume and the heartless Hogan test has said about you.
Good luck and I'm sorry to hear you didn't make it.
First, the whole pre-interview process is designed so all of those who make it to the interview are people who could be hired.
The percentage rate seems to be about 70% hired for those interviewed, but there is no required failure rate.
The interview failures come from:
1. Dishonesty
2. Canned answers.
3. An attitude of entitlement (I am owed this job).
4. Lack of empathy (doesn't work well with others).
5. No real indication of leadership and CRM skills.
These interviewers have heard it before, so if you can go and get some practice interviews and have someone evaluate your personality and presentation skills do it.
The bottom line is if you get an interview you're more than qualified by experience, you passed the Hogan personality test and now a real group of people just want to see if you'll fit into the culture of United Airlines pilots. Additionally they're confirming what your resume and the heartless Hogan test has said about you.
Good luck and I'm sorry to hear you didn't make it.
That said, if United calls you for an interview there is a chair in a new hire class for you. It's not like SWA, interview 500 to hire 100.
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United Interview
I first interviewed in November 1977 and seven more times into the 1980's. You ask how I could have received eight interviews?
The answer was that I would simple reapply with my application indicating I was a miniority. The airlines computer "scantron system" would scan my paper application and immediately reinvite me back to interview again.
The process became an utter joke, as United in the 1970's was sued for discrimination based on the legal doctrine of "disparate impact".
The federal courts ordered United to lower it's hiring standards to a Commercial Pilot Certificate with Instrument Rating, 350 hours total time, and a high school diploma.
It became a nightmare for those white United Pilots who suddenly found themselves with woman and minority's who lacked flying experience. Not to mention the near accidents, incidents that occurred years later.
United would never ask me about being black (I'm white), as it's illegal to inquire.
In the early 1980's, after American established the B-scale wage system, United quickly followed. The deregulated airline career became a joke, and I left for Germany.
Your not missing out on any career at United. When I applied in 1977 they had 5,500 pilots, today they have over 12,500 pilot's. You'll never see the Captain seat, and will end up one of those gray haired sixty year old B-777 or B-787 First Officers.
Today, I'm an A330 Captain at Hainan Airlines based in Seattle. I fly four round trips a month, and make $350,0000 per year. Far more than United Airlines or any other American air carrier will ever be willing to pay.
The answer was that I would simple reapply with my application indicating I was a miniority. The airlines computer "scantron system" would scan my paper application and immediately reinvite me back to interview again.
The process became an utter joke, as United in the 1970's was sued for discrimination based on the legal doctrine of "disparate impact".
The federal courts ordered United to lower it's hiring standards to a Commercial Pilot Certificate with Instrument Rating, 350 hours total time, and a high school diploma.
It became a nightmare for those white United Pilots who suddenly found themselves with woman and minority's who lacked flying experience. Not to mention the near accidents, incidents that occurred years later.
United would never ask me about being black (I'm white), as it's illegal to inquire.
In the early 1980's, after American established the B-scale wage system, United quickly followed. The deregulated airline career became a joke, and I left for Germany.
Your not missing out on any career at United. When I applied in 1977 they had 5,500 pilots, today they have over 12,500 pilot's. You'll never see the Captain seat, and will end up one of those gray haired sixty year old B-777 or B-787 First Officers.
Today, I'm an A330 Captain at Hainan Airlines based in Seattle. I fly four round trips a month, and make $350,0000 per year. Far more than United Airlines or any other American air carrier will ever be willing to pay.
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