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Flytolive 03-19-2018 01:19 PM
Originally Posted by Sunvox (Post 2554089)
I wasn't looking at it as positive growth I was looking at it as a bad increase in pilot utilization that has led to a serious decline in hiring and movement.
What he is telling you is that there are variables that you might be missing and could therefore be overstating the implications of an increase in utilization. You might also want to read Carlson's letter in which he explains why more pilot block hours in March or other low season periods don't lead to more/less pilot hiring. Summer peak block hours are what drive hiring.

89Pistons 03-19-2018 01:21 PM
Originally Posted by CALFO (Post 2554214)
Ok. Got it now. Perhaps we are nearing the tipping point of increasing staffing.
No, we are not.

Groundpointfife 03-19-2018 03:35 PM
Originally Posted by 89Pistons (Post 2554217)
No, we are not.
Especially not if more 76 seat jets are outsourced the way Kirby would like.

svergin 03-19-2018 04:02 PM
Originally Posted by Groundpointfife (Post 2554315)
Especially not if more 76 seat jets are outsourced the way Kirby would like.
We didn't have 76 seat jets until C2012. Prior to that it was 50 seats max. We voted it away for money.

CLazarus 03-19-2018 04:19 PM
Originally Posted by CALFO (Post 2554214)
Ok. Got it now. Perhaps we are nearing the tipping point of increasing staffing.
More like on the cusp of a steadier hiring pace starting probably late this fall. Not growth per se. But, with all recalls finished this year, increased utilization, and no more wholesale fleet retirements I'd expect to see fairly consistent new hire classes to replace retirements at least. Can't think of much other remaining slack that could prevent modest hiring.

Obviously if the economy tanks all bets are off...

webecheck 03-19-2018 04:20 PM
Originally Posted by svergin (Post 2554332)
We didn't have 76 seat jets until C2012. Prior to that it was 50 seats max. We voted it away for money.
Wait, what?

McNugent 03-19-2018 05:08 PM
Originally Posted by webecheck (Post 2554348)
Wait, what?
Continental...

MasterOfPuppets 03-19-2018 05:09 PM
Originally Posted by CLazarus (Post 2554347)
More like on the cusp of a steadier hiring pace starting probably late this fall. Not growth per se. But, with all recalls finished this year, increased utilization, and no more wholesale fleet retirements I'd expect to see fairly consistent new hire classes to replace retirements at least. Can't think of much other remaining slack that could prevent modest hiring.

Obviously if the economy tanks all bets are off...
Recalls aren't done until fall of 2019.

MasterOfPuppets 03-19-2018 05:09 PM
Originally Posted by svergin (Post 2554332)
We didn't have 76 seat jets until C2012. Prior to that it was 50 seats max. We voted it away for money.
UAL did......CAL didn't

Slats Extend 03-19-2018 05:18 PM
Q-400's held how may pax again?;)


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