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BMEP100 03-20-2018 02:49 PM

No more pets in cargo for United
 
Ready....Fire....Aim. (again)

https://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...aps/441529002/

JoePatroni 03-20-2018 03:17 PM

The old CO pet program was highly regarded, I believe it was even endorsed by the AKC. In true Smisek fashion, he decided outsourcing made more sense and yet another piece of the operation became a turd- like everything else that abject failure touched.

BMEP100 03-21-2018 04:50 AM


Originally Posted by JoePatroni (Post 2555158)
The old CO pet program was highly regarded, I believe it was even endorsed by the AKC. In true Smisek fashion, he decided outsourcing made more sense and yet another piece of the operation became a turd- like everything else that abject failure touched.

I don't know who is responsible exactly. I doubt you do either.
However, you are correct about the old CAL Petsafe program. When created during Bethune' tenure around 2000, it was a stroke of marketing genius. (Wasn't his idea, but that's indicative of the atmosphere he engendered).

The program wound up "bringing " additional premium passenger traffic to CAL. By the time of the merger, in spite of the size difference of the two carriers, CAL was carrying 4 times as many pets in the hold as United. Around 130,000/yr.

This decision to suspend the program is another knee jerk, like the bonus suspension.

I don't think the exec office realizes there are people in DOD, for example who are contractually bound to use United. So when Sergeant Bailey and his wife DEROS back to the U.S. from wherever, the travel office gives them a ticket on United (no choice). So what do they do with Fido/fluffy....etc?

itsmytime 03-21-2018 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by BMEP100 (Post 2555449)

I don't think the exec office realizes there are people in DOD, for example who are contractually bound to use United. So when Sergeant Bailey and his wife DEROS back to the U.S. from wherever, the travel office gives them a ticket on United (no choice). So what do they do with Fido/fluffy....etc?

Put them on another airline, and get reimbursed for the ticket. Not a big deal.

Hrkdrivr 03-21-2018 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by BMEP100 (Post 2555449)
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I don't think the exec office realizes there are people in DOD, for example who are contractually bound to use United. So when Sergeant Bailey and his wife DEROS back to the U.S. from wherever, the travel office gives them a ticket on United (no choice). So what do they do with Fido/fluffy....etc?

If it's a mil charter, DoD/TRANSCOM will probably spell out in the contract they must carry pets.

BMEP100 03-21-2018 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by Hrkdrivr (Post 2555505)
If it's a mil charter, DoD/TRANSCOM will probably spell out in the contract they must carry pets.

Not charters. Just contracted carriage. Military members have no choice, just like other DOD/ gov employees.

detpilot 03-21-2018 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by BMEP100 (Post 2555614)
Not charters. Just contracted carriage. Military members have no choice, just like other DOD/ gov employees.

I always get stuck on AA when flying on dod business. I'd much rather fly on us.

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Grumble 03-21-2018 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by BMEP100 (Post 2555614)
Not charters. Just contracted carriage. Military members have no choice, just like other DOD/ gov employees.

The only ones who don’t have a choice are the ones who don’t negotiate with SATO. And if anyone is on orders with their animal because they’re PCSing.... simple, they get booked on another airline.

Guess what, Fido is probably going into quarantine anyway so who cares.


Time to UnJeff petsafe.

CVGair 03-21-2018 10:35 AM

It was time
 
Although the death of Coquito while tragic will probably save lives. Clearly if Coquito's life was not snuffed out in such a horrible manner along with the timing of the Japan dog reroute this policy might never have been changed. It was time. Little Coquito's legacy will live on! To many pets needlessly die in Cargo bins.

Grumble 03-21-2018 01:52 PM

How many cats do you have?


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